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I think they are already underground and stay out of Afghanistan. Watkins Brian wrote: > Two (off topic) cents from an overseas American: > > You folks need to chill on this one. Sitting around > doing nothing isn't the answer. However, neither is > lobbing bombs before people know *exactly* who the > hell is responsible. To really stop modern terrorist > organizations like this one (which operate globally > and in such notorious terrorist hotbeds as Hamburg and > Florida), careful investigation (read infiltration) > followed by ruthless, but *surgical* action is > necessary. You can bet that there are people working > on this, but their jobs will be made much more > difficult if knee-jerk military action causes the real > culprits to further dispurse underground. > > Flame away, > Brian > > --- Patrick Duffy <pduffyca@ea*.ne*> wrote: > > Ric, > > > > I think you are missing the point. > > > > These radicals HATE our society. They think we are > > the devil. Nothing we can > > do short of becoming Islamic fundamentalist radicals > > will end their hate and > > disdain for us. Have you ever dealt with any of the > > countries over there? I > > have, and their societies are NOTHING even remotely > > close to ours. > > > > Getting away with something is when no action is > > taken. If you do not think > > that massive destruction does not change behaviors, > > you are simply wrong. The > > hate may not go away, but the actions will cease. > > Do you recall Colonel > > Mu'ammar al-Qadhafi and his threats? We lobbed a > > few missiles in Libya over 10 > > years ago and we have not heard a peep out of him in > > quite a while. Did you > > forget the "Mother of All Wars"? What about the > > hundreds of Saddam Hussein's > > army that gave up to a small number of our troops? > > Why did they do that if they > > were not afraid of death? > > > > Over 90% of the people in the US think we ought to > > bomb the hell out of > > Afghanistan. I guess 90% of us are wrong. And what > > "new methods" do you think > > will work? > > > > You seem to think that talking to these people will > > solve issues, but do not > > understand that the real issues cannot be solved. > > The only way to solve these > > types of disagreements is by eliminating the other > > party or as many as it takes > > until they get the message. I am not suggesting the > > threat of punishment, but a > > guaranteed response. And they should know that our > > response will be much, much > > worse than they will want to deal with. > > > > Patrick Duffy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The world is getting smaller and these things will > > continue. > > > > Ric wrote: > > > > > I'm as shocked and pissed as anyone. > > > > > > But, you're missing the point. Who said they > > thought they could get away > > > with it? They already have gotten away with it. > > What happens next is > > > irrelevant to them. Our threats of "punishment" > > won't work when punishment > > > has a very different meaning than we're thinking > > it does. Until we > > > understand that, we'll just be on a rampage like a > > wounded bear and not > > > really change anything. I'm not being pacifistic > > here, I've simply > > > recognised that this is a fundamentally different > > game, and the old methods > > > won't work. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Patrick Duffy > > [mailto:pduffyca@ea*.ne*] > > > Sent: 13-Sep-2001 11:54 AM > > > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > > > Cc: Techdiver > > > Subject: Re: Lines in the Sand > > > > > > Not a surprising article coming out of the liberal > > Salon Magazine is it? > > > The article is a piece of crap and so is the > > magazine. > > > > > > > > > http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/12/blowback/index.html > > > > > > Shock and sadness is turning into rage and anger > > ... and it will build. The > > > strong majority of the American public will > > demand swift and severe > > > punishment to the scum responsible for this act > > and any country harboring > > > those vermin. > > > > > > I suppose someone on the far left might want to > > reflect on what we have done > > > wrong to result in pure hate and action like this, > > and what we can do to > > > keep it from happening again in the future. > > > > > > All I know is there were a lot of innocent fellow > > Americans brutally killed > > > and massive damage done (and much more > > attempted). Many families and > > > businesses will never be the same. > > > > > > I want pay back and I want it soon. Once it is > > done, I want any group or > > > government that even considers an attack like this > > again to know that they > > > and those that support them will pay an incredible > > price for their actions. > > > Our actions will not bring back those that have > > been lost, but it will send > > > a very strong and needed message. > > > > > > Even though terrorism has reached a new height, it > > has been going on for > > > years. Many of those countries that supported > > terrorism are now condemning > > > it. They do so because they know the wrath that > > is about to take place and > > > do not want to be part of it. These people > > understand one thing ... brute > > > force. > > > > > > Instead of asking "How much anger can prompt a > > group of people to do this?", > > > I would have asked, "Who is stupid enough to try > > this shit and think they > > > will get away with it?" > > > > > > There is only one way to deal with terrorists and > > their supporters ... take > > > their lives. > > > > > > God Bless America > > > > > > Patrick Duffy > > > > > > Joel Markwell wrote: > > > > > > > On 9/13/01 1:10 PM, "Olaf Trygve Berglihn" > > <olafb@pv*.or*> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am seriously concerned about the aftermath > > of the unforgivable > > > > > terrorist acts. Fighting fire with fire will > > not stop terrorism or > > > > > bring the dead back. > > > > > > > > > > Related readings: > > > > > > > > http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/12/blowback/index.html > > > > > > > > A thoughtful article, thanks for posting it. > > > > > > > > JoeL > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Y! 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