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Ric, I think you are missing the point. These radicals HATE our society. They think we are the devil. Nothing we can do short of becoming Islamic fundamentalist radicals will end their hate and disdain for us. Have you ever dealt with any of the countries over there? I have, and their societies are NOTHING even remotely close to ours. Getting away with something is when no action is taken. If you do not think that massive destruction does not change behaviors, you are simply wrong. The hate may not go away, but the actions will cease. Do you recall Colonel Mu'ammar al-Qadhafi and his threats? We lobbed a few missiles in Libya over 10 years ago and we have not heard a peep out of him in quite a while. Did you forget the "Mother of All Wars"? What about the hundreds of Saddam Hussein's army that gave up to a small number of our troops? Why did they do that if they were not afraid of death? Over 90% of the people in the US think we ought to bomb the hell out of Afghanistan. I guess 90% of us are wrong. And what "new methods" do you think will work? You seem to think that talking to these people will solve issues, but do not understand that the real issues cannot be solved. The only way to solve these types of disagreements is by eliminating the other party or as many as it takes until they get the message. I am not suggesting the threat of punishment, but a guaranteed response. And they should know that our response will be much, much worse than they will want to deal with. Patrick Duffy The world is getting smaller and these things will continue. Ric wrote: > I'm as shocked and pissed as anyone. > > But, you're missing the point. Who said they thought they could get away > with it? They already have gotten away with it. What happens next is > irrelevant to them. Our threats of "punishment" won't work when punishment > has a very different meaning than we're thinking it does. Until we > understand that, we'll just be on a rampage like a wounded bear and not > really change anything. I'm not being pacifistic here, I've simply > recognised that this is a fundamentally different game, and the old methods > won't work. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Duffy [mailto:pduffyca@ea*.ne*] > Sent: 13-Sep-2001 11:54 AM > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Cc: Techdiver > Subject: Re: Lines in the Sand > > Not a surprising article coming out of the liberal Salon Magazine is it? > The article is a piece of crap and so is the magazine. > > http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/12/blowback/index.html > > Shock and sadness is turning into rage and anger ... and it will build. The > strong majority of the American public will demand swift and severe > punishment to the scum responsible for this act and any country harboring > those vermin. > > I suppose someone on the far left might want to reflect on what we have done > wrong to result in pure hate and action like this, and what we can do to > keep it from happening again in the future. > > All I know is there were a lot of innocent fellow Americans brutally killed > and massive damage done (and much more attempted). Many families and > businesses will never be the same. > > I want pay back and I want it soon. Once it is done, I want any group or > government that even considers an attack like this again to know that they > and those that support them will pay an incredible price for their actions. > Our actions will not bring back those that have been lost, but it will send > a very strong and needed message. > > Even though terrorism has reached a new height, it has been going on for > years. Many of those countries that supported terrorism are now condemning > it. They do so because they know the wrath that is about to take place and > do not want to be part of it. These people understand one thing ... brute > force. > > Instead of asking "How much anger can prompt a group of people to do this?", > I would have asked, "Who is stupid enough to try this shit and think they > will get away with it?" > > There is only one way to deal with terrorists and their supporters ... take > their lives. > > God Bless America > > Patrick Duffy > > Joel Markwell wrote: > > > On 9/13/01 1:10 PM, "Olaf Trygve Berglihn" <olafb@pv*.or*> wrote: > > > > > I am seriously concerned about the aftermath of the unforgivable > > > terrorist acts. Fighting fire with fire will not stop terrorism or > > > bring the dead back. > > > > > > Related readings: > > > http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/12/blowback/index.html > > > > A thoughtful article, thanks for posting it. > > > > JoeL > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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