Grady, this moron is not on the team or he would understand what we do and
why. He is another nobody with a big problem about me. Nobody has to buy any
scooters, and the fact is that very few of the team actually dive in places
where they would need one. I put the scooter program together my self at my
own expense for all development and then made several for team members to
use . I even made one for Gavin . Nobody but me paid for any of that. The
original players eventually asked me to make more runs of scooters and we
pooled our money to do so. Later we continued to produce them to support the
project and to enable the project. Right now 15 of the scooters used are
owned by me, 8 or 9 by Jarrod, several by Rose, Mee, Charmichael , Trout,
Landon, Hunsucker and the rest of the gang.

Several other teams have asked me to make their standard workhouse
scooters - all over the world.

The fact is, as we all know, If I could have made enough scooters in the
past for everyone, weasels like SS and the others would not have any market.
We all know that the weasels do not do the diving we do, and as such have no
clue what makes a good scooter. We all know that these other guys charge a
ridiculous price for bogus gear, and we all know that only the idiots seem
to be fooled. Now I am able to get more parts, and have expanded the
production with some help.

I am in the process of producing a wreck-only scooter which is small,
unfrivolous , has a short burn time and will go very deep. I am also now
going to produce another version of my own similar to the back end of the ss
to shut up the idiots, only done correctly which will be interchangeable
between my current style and that style. All of the modular components will
be interchangeable between styles that I make.

That will be three choices with interchangeability between the two bigger
scooters, and the prices will be kept in the range they are in now, or less
depending on volume, and they will be done right, not kluged and screwed up
like the copies, fakes, and other bullshit.

This should serve to shut up the anonymous little morons who constantly have
to attack us, and as per my usual, I am not the right guy to screw with as
there is no winning with me. Now we will see what bullshit can do in the
face of an application of our resources and talents. I love to fight with
assholes, and this again gives me a chance to do so.

-----Original Message-----
From: grichardson@at*.ne* [mailto:grichardson@at*.ne*]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:46 PM
To: givemeabreak george
Cc: techdiver
Subject: RE: George has done it again!


Why do you want to be a WKPP diver? You claim to be
one. Why do you want to be one? Why do you go against
your convictions and remain on the team, if you are in
fact on it? Wouldn't it make more sense, as a matter of
principle, to quit? How about some straight answers.

Grady

P.S. Do you own a Gavin? Do you own a Submersion?
> Hey guys you seem to forget that standardization is not everything.
> George FORCES us to buy one (or more) of his scooters to be on the team.
He
> says he is selling them for cost to us... bull. He pockets the money and
> then decides that since you are a stroke he may not fix it!
> He says it is better to use the Gavin  because of standarization of the
> team, but why not use the latest, greatest and best? Is George going to
fix
> it underwater? What an idiot! Do not get me wrong the Gavin is a decent
> scooter, but the next generation scooter is clearly better ie Silent
> Submersion. It's like being happy with a Pent.II chip but we all know that
> P4 is better. Wouldn't you rather have the best? Of course. George is now
> threatening to make them "cheaper" so we better look out. What a
moron....go
> ahead and make them cheaper. You have already ripped off your primary
> market, now make them cheaper and rip off the secondary market. The only
> reason you are saying this is because your sales have bombed because of
the
> "improved gavin clones".
> Give me a break....
>
> >From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
> >To: <grichardson@at*.ne*>, "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
> >"Quest@Gu*. Com" <quest@gu*.co*>
> >Subject: RE: George has done it again!
> >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 07:51:34 -0400
> >
> >
> >Submersion is significantly cheaper to make. The guy is merely using my
> >benchmark to price, and then is not delivering the same performance. He
> >could get away with this because I could not keep up with orders, but now
> >my
> >supply chain is secured , caught up and increased so I can produce a lot
> >more than before. I lowered my price several times as I found economies
of
> >scale.
> >
> >I can make any form of scooter, and have done so. Anyone who wants to see
> >any of my other scooters can stop by my house and look. The one we use in
> >the WKPP is the Gavin design with standard internal part sizes that make
> >everyone's scooter and parts interchangeable. I could even make a
> >submersion
> >( of course done right, not kluged ) and make it interchangeable, but
then
> >I have to go through the risk period knowing that there might be screwups
> >with the flexing of the back end and nose. We solved that problem in the
EE
> >lights by using a middle bulkhead and a hard material lid. If we used
HDPE
> >for the lid, it would bow and leak badly. Anyway, one more word out of
> >those
> >assholes and I will make their scooter properly and a hell of a lot
> >cheaper,
> >so I suggest these idiots not test me.
> >
> >What I did with the current version of the Gavin is make one up and have
> >some of my young guns dive them it and out of deep water at our dive
sites
> >accompanied by divers on regular Gavins and towing Gavins to see if there
> >would be any issues over a period of a year. When there were not, I went
> >ahead and produced those. While I don't have time for that kind of thing,
I
> >sure have no problem making anything anyone wants cheaper and better and
> >let
> >them take the risk ( like they are with that piece of shit) , and the
fact
> >is that most people who buy things like that don't have a clue and don't
do
> >what we do anyway, so there probably is not much risk. Hell, just about
> >anything works at Ginnie Springs or bounce diving.
> >
> >Funny who goes the distance and what they use, and funny who explores the
> >serious wrecks and what they use. Not a coincidence, let me assure you.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: grichardson@at*.ne* [mailto:grichardson@at*.ne*]
> >Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:08 PM
> >To: techdiver
> >Cc: georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*
> >Subject: Re:George has done it again!
> >
> >
> >Hey Giveme,
> >
> >At first you come out for the Submersion, and against the
> >Gavin. You say George is ripping people off, even though
> >the Submersion costs more.
> >
> >Then you claim to be a WKPP diver, yea right, and want to
> >stay on the team. But Gavins are the only the only
> >scooters used in the WKPP. So you want to continue using
> >a Gavin, even though you say the Submersion is superior?
> >
> >Now you have put yourself on both sides of the fence and
> >don't have the balls to sign your name and stand up for
> >either side. By your own admission you're a hypocrite.
> >Who would believe any of your nonsense BS? You're done.
> >Time to sit down.
> >
> >Grady
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