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Hey guys you seem to forget that standardization is not everything. George FORCES us to buy one (or more) of his scooters to be on the team. He says he is selling them for cost to us... bull. He pockets the money and then decides that since you are a stroke he may not fix it! He says it is better to use the Gavin because of standarization of the team, but why not use the latest, greatest and best? Is George going to fix it underwater? What an idiot! Do not get me wrong the Gavin is a decent scooter, but the next generation scooter is clearly better ie Silent Submersion. It's like being happy with a Pent.II chip but we all know that P4 is better. Wouldn't you rather have the best? Of course. George is now threatening to make them "cheaper" so we better look out. What a moron....go ahead and make them cheaper. You have already ripped off your primary market, now make them cheaper and rip off the secondary market. The only reason you are saying this is because your sales have bombed because of the "improved gavin clones". Give me a break.... >From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey) >To: <grichardson@at*.ne*>, "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, >"Quest@Gu*. Com" <quest@gu*.co*> >Subject: RE: George has done it again! >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 07:51:34 -0400 > > >Submersion is significantly cheaper to make. The guy is merely using my >benchmark to price, and then is not delivering the same performance. He >could get away with this because I could not keep up with orders, but now >my >supply chain is secured , caught up and increased so I can produce a lot >more than before. I lowered my price several times as I found economies of >scale. > >I can make any form of scooter, and have done so. Anyone who wants to see >any of my other scooters can stop by my house and look. The one we use in >the WKPP is the Gavin design with standard internal part sizes that make >everyone's scooter and parts interchangeable. I could even make a >submersion >( of course done right, not kluged ) and make it interchangeable, but then >I have to go through the risk period knowing that there might be screwups >with the flexing of the back end and nose. We solved that problem in the EE >lights by using a middle bulkhead and a hard material lid. If we used HDPE >for the lid, it would bow and leak badly. Anyway, one more word out of >those >assholes and I will make their scooter properly and a hell of a lot >cheaper, >so I suggest these idiots not test me. > >What I did with the current version of the Gavin is make one up and have >some of my young guns dive them it and out of deep water at our dive sites >accompanied by divers on regular Gavins and towing Gavins to see if there >would be any issues over a period of a year. When there were not, I went >ahead and produced those. While I don't have time for that kind of thing, I >sure have no problem making anything anyone wants cheaper and better and >let >them take the risk ( like they are with that piece of shit) , and the fact >is that most people who buy things like that don't have a clue and don't do >what we do anyway, so there probably is not much risk. Hell, just about >anything works at Ginnie Springs or bounce diving. > >Funny who goes the distance and what they use, and funny who explores the >serious wrecks and what they use. Not a coincidence, let me assure you. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: grichardson@at*.ne* [mailto:grichardson@at*.ne*] >Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:08 PM >To: techdiver >Cc: georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co* >Subject: Re:George has done it again! > > >Hey Giveme, > >At first you come out for the Submersion, and against the >Gavin. You say George is ripping people off, even though >the Submersion costs more. > >Then you claim to be a WKPP diver, yea right, and want to >stay on the team. But Gavins are the only the only >scooters used in the WKPP. So you want to continue using >a Gavin, even though you say the Submersion is superior? > >Now you have put yourself on both sides of the fence and >don't have the balls to sign your name and stand up for >either side. By your own admission you're a hypocrite. >Who would believe any of your nonsense BS? You're done. >Time to sit down. > >Grady >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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