Yes, I already made the correct drawings and got prices from my shop - very
much cheaper than those scumbags are letting on, only done without the sheer
stupidity with which that piece of shit was "designed".

-----Original Message-----
From: terry michael [mailto:OEA51@go*.co*]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:55 PM
To: Trey; grichardson@at*.ne*; techdiver; Quest@Gu*. Com
Subject: Re: Re: George has done it again!


Anyway, one more word out of those
>assholes and I will make their scooter properly and a hell of a lot
cheaper,
>so I suggest these idiots not test me.

End of the thread I suspect. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: "Trey"<trey@ne*.co*>
To: grichardson@at*.ne*, "techdiver"<techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Quest@Gu*.
Com"<quest@gu*.co*>
Date: Fri Sep 07 04:51:34 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: George has done it again!

>
>Submersion is significantly cheaper to make. The guy is merely using my
>benchmark to price, and then is not delivering the same performance. He
>could get away with this because I could not keep up with orders, but now
my
>supply chain is secured , caught up and increased so I can produce a lot
>more than before. I lowered my price several times as I found economies of
>scale.
>
>I can make any form of scooter, and have done so. Anyone who wants to see
>any of my other scooters can stop by my house and look. The one we use in
>the WKPP is the Gavin design with standard internal part sizes that make
>everyone's scooter and parts interchangeable. I could even make a
submersion
>( of course done right, not kluged ) and make it interchangeable, but  then
>I have to go through the risk period knowing that there might be screwups
>with the flexing of the back end and nose. We solved that problem in the EE
>lights by using a middle bulkhead and a hard material lid. If we used HDPE
>for the lid, it would bow and leak badly. Anyway, one more word out of
those
>assholes and I will make their scooter properly and a hell of a lot
cheaper,
>so I suggest these idiots not test me.
>
>What I did with the current version of the Gavin is make one up and have
>some of my young guns dive them it and out of deep water at our dive sites
>accompanied by divers on regular Gavins and towing Gavins to see if there
>would be any issues over a period of a year. When there were not, I went
>ahead and produced those. While I don't have time for that kind of thing, I
>sure have no problem making anything anyone wants cheaper and better and
let
>them take the risk ( like they are with that piece of shit) , and the fact
>is that most people who buy things like that don't have a clue and don't do
>what we do anyway, so there probably is not much risk. Hell, just about
>anything works at Ginnie Springs or bounce diving.
>
>Funny who goes the distance and what they use, and funny who explores the
>serious wrecks and what they use. Not a coincidence, let me assure you.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: grichardson@at*.ne* [mailto:grichardson@at*.ne*]
>Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:08 PM
>To: techdiver
>Cc: georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*
>Subject: Re:George has done it again!
>
>
>Hey Giveme,
>
>At first you come out for the Submersion, and against the
>Gavin. You say George is ripping people off, even though
>the Submersion costs more.
>
>Then you claim to be a WKPP diver, yea right, and want to
>stay on the team. But Gavins are the only the only
>scooters used in the WKPP. So you want to continue using
>a Gavin, even though you say the Submersion is superior?
>
>Now you have put yourself on both sides of the fence and
>don't have the balls to sign your name and stand up for
>either side. By your own admission you're a hypocrite.
>Who would believe any of your nonsense BS? You're done.
>Time to sit down.
>
>Grady
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