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----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt Degler" <cdegler@be*.co*> To: <hphobbie@at*.ne*> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Florida panel bans shark feeding > >I think shark feeds are dumb > > what an intelligent comment!> Thank you. I like to think I'm moderately intelligent. > just as the analogy between opposing shark feeding and opposing state > regulation of caving. > > First they stop shark feeding, then they stop wet cavers. > I was using it as an example of how politicians buckle to media hype and political pressure. Do you think a multiple fatality in say...Little River...wouldn't get some county commissioners thinking? > Pretty soon we have handgun regulation! I'm opposed to handgun regulation but this is a techdiver list and a discussion of handgun regulation my be inappropriate in this forum. > > And commies in the white house! > I'm sure there are but once again this is a techdiver forum. > I'd be embarrassed if I were you to post such drivel. > I thought you said it was intelligent!?!? > Instead I'd work on opposing current rules against feeding gators and > bears. This is where the current stupidity started. > > Everyone knows that the human provision of wild animals is without any > effect whatsover on their behavior. Its just common sense! > I would have to disagree. Just as these commissioners are dumbasses for listening to the MSG and relating attacks to shark feeds - these operators who claim no altering of sharks behavior are misleading folks as well. I do appreciate the kind words, Curt. Email me if you want to discuss handgun regulation or commies in the White House. Jim Holcomb > > > Preston Hobbie wrote: > > > > is almost like a Monty Python skit ... the sharks are attacking surfers in > > swimmers within yards of shore, at the surface, in dirty water, at dusk or > > dawn. So we ban shark feedings miles offshore, at 20-40 ft, in clear water, > > during the day > > > > ..... she's a witch! ... > > > > H. Preston Hobbie > > 317-894-9338 > > http://home.att.net/~hphobbie/index.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Holcomb [mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*] > > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 6:28 AM > > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > > Subject: Re: Florida panel bans shark feeding > > > > Folks need to take heed of this proposed ban. I think shark feed dives are > > dumb. BUT, if this ban takes effect it will have a NEGATIVE impact on all > > divers for sometime to come. If these commissioners can come to the dumbass > > conclusions that they did on this issue and buckle under to political > > pressure and media hype, then who's next? Keep in mind, on average more > > divers die in Florida caves than in any negative Florida shark "encounter". > > This proposed shark ban decision was made by 7 people in a state of > > millions. How many will it take to close access to our caves next time we > > have another multiple fatality? I suggest those of you who live in Florida > > write your representatives in opposition to this ban. As I said at the > > beginning, I oppose shark feed dives - but one has to go with the lesser of > > two evils in this case. > > > > Jim Holcomb > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John M. Taylor" <johnt@ca*.co*> > > To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:36 PM > > Subject: Florida panel bans shark feeding > > > > > http://www.floridatoday.com/news/local/stories/2001/sep/loc090701i.htm > > > > > > Sept. 7, 2001 > > > > > > Florida panel bans shark feeding > > > > > > By John Tuohy > > > FLORIDA TODAY > > > > > > AMELIA ISLAND, Fla. - In a swift change of course, environmental > > > regulators Thursday agreed > > > to ban shark feeding in Florida waters. > > > > > > The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission voted 6-1 to write > > > a rule that prohibits > > > feeding of sharks and other marine predators, including eels and rays. > > > The rule will be > > > considered at its next meeting Oct. 31. > > > > > > The action took diving tour operators, who feed the sharks to give scuba > > > diving tourists a > > > close-up look at them, by surprise. The commission had been expected to > > > consider only rules > > > to regulate, not ban, shark-feeding dives. > > > > > > "They basically bowed to pressure. They said let's bury these guys and > > > show the people of > > > Florida we are doing something about sharks, even though nobody has ever > > > been seriously > > > hurt on a dive," said Jim Abernathy, owner of Jim Abernathy's Scuba > > > Adventures in Palm > > > Beach, one of four shark-feeding tour companies in Florida. > > > > > > Tour captains argued that feedings are educational because they teach > > > people sharks are not > > > the aggressive killers they often are perceived to be. They disputed > > > claims by conservationists > > > that feeding sharks puts people at risk because they learn to rely on > > > them, and seek people for > > > food. > > > > > > But the commissioners appeared leery of both arguments. "We needed to > > > have some comfort > > > that we weren't altering the sharks' behavior, and we just couldn't get > > > that," Commission > > > Chairman David Meehan said. > > > > > > Ironically, Meehan said, it was videotapes provided by the shark tour > > > guides in their own > > > defense that convinced him the practice could teach the predators > > > dangerous habits. > > > > > > "I didn't realize that there was such an abnormal concentration of > > > sharks when they were fed > > > until I saw the videos," Meehan said. "It was like they responded to the > > > dinner bell." > > > > > > Dan Wagner, an undersea documentary maker from Indialantic who feeds > > > sharks to get his best > > > shots, said the vote will cost the state tourist dollars. > > > > > > "With no scientific proof that fish feeding underwater had anything to > > > do with any attacks > > > anywhere, the commission put four people out of business," he said. > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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