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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:27:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
Subject: Re: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
To: "Michael J. Blitch" <mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
I agree, in my opinion mounting a carabineer to ride on top of the Decor dpv is
the silliest strokery I've seen come out of this list in a long time. Simply
burn a couple of holes in the shroud and then tie in a bolt snap. Then position
yourself behind and just above the prop wash. 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Michael J. Blitch"<mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Tue Aug 21 06:12:01 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor

>On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:08:18 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>Around here we usually dive
>>with the boat attached to the wreck with varying amounts of current and
>>don't have the time to screw around on the surface.
>
>Around here we dive with usually nothing but a strong current and have
>less time to dick around than you do. You have time to fumble with
>stuff and then leisurely follow the anchor.
>
>>While the tow harness seen on cave expeditionary scooters are great for the
>>long haul they are a pain for this use. With the scooter clipped off at the
>>shroud you have instant access to the unit without having to position it
>>first. 
>
>How often have you tried this? We did 4 drops to 250+ this weekend
>several last weekend, and dozens of others over the past few months.
>The scooters that we use are Gavins and the cord length is enough to
>have it at arms length. When exiting the boat, it is clipped in and
>being held by one hand. Hit the water and it is just as immediately
>available.
>
>>With a D/A it can actually pull you sideways from the waist if you
>>want. In this case the forward mounted handles of the Dacor are an asset.
>
>This leads to the question of ....why? Doing something like this is
>going to strain the motor and start killing the batteries. 
>
>>But if you are doing a long cruise, like in a cave, the tow line is superior
>>for comfort, but this is usually not the case with wreckers. We use the
>>scooter in short bursts to hop around to different parts of the wreck.
>
>The tow cord is just as much an asset as anything else, if not more.
>When you don't need the scooter and want to be close to the bottom
>(i.e. looking for artifacts or lobster) then you do not want them damn
>thing under you continuously dragging. My scooter is just barely
>positive in saltwater and I will just move it to the side until it is
>needed. I want something that is not going to be in the way but
>provides the burn time and depth I need. When you start keeping it in
>close, you are going to start getting all kinds of crap caught in the
>props, even with the damn guard. Just ask JT. Keeping the tow cord too
>short also ads a hell of a lot more drag.
>
>>The single battery of A/D makes it lightweight enough to be an attached part
>>of your gear. It's no problem to change batteries between dives, in fact
>>that is preferable to carrying 2 or more batteries at once, having to hump
>>these batteries on and off the dive boat. As far as pulling power I have no
>>problem hauling all my stuff plus another tech diver behind me with an A/D,
>>and have done it several times.
>
>Single battery of the Gavin short tube provides me with more than an
>hours burn time. You're getting too short a burn time since you're
>drawing a hell of a lot more amps literally dragging yourself around.
>
>Don't short change yourself. The short cords and short battery life
>becomes too much of a liability for anything more serious than 60 foot
>reef dives. When doing that dive, I'll pull out a Torpedo or my old
>Mako. Anything else, then you need what works.
>
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too intelligent, powerful, or devious. However if I do so, I will not at some
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