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From: "The McLeods" <rmmacleod@ac*.ca*>
To: "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re:on high current diving
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:00:52 -0300
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Hi Jim,I know if I was a freindly canadian custom's officer(I'm just =
your
average freindly Canadian),I would stick your sorry ass in that white =
room
for alot longer,if I heard any more about your stinkin American
dollars.Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>; "Duane Liptak =
Jr."
<d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; "Thom Hadfield" <thom.hadfield@ho*.co*>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: On high current diving


> For those of you who what to actually want to do this here are a =
couple of
> Canadian travel tips:
>
> 1. If you have anything on "the record" right down to a speeding =
ticket
> prepare to enter a nice, bare white room to get "debriefed" by the
friendly
> Canadian Customs officers. To ease this situation makes sure that you =
say
> that the reason for your visit is "to spend lots of American Dollars" =
then
> they will generally let you in anyway. When leaving the country =
prepare to
> have a repeat of this friendly "welcome wagon" performance except it =
may
> last 4 or 5 hours and your auto may get confiscated if they find =
anything
> even the slightest funny about it, say a recent paint job, expired =
county
> sticker, or anything else of that nature. To ease this situation make =
sure
> you mention that "Boy did I spend a large amount of American Dollars =
in
your
> beautiful country."
>
> 2. Once in the country make it clear to everybody you deal with that =
you
> have plenty of American dollars to spend and that you are specifically =
in
> Canada to spend this money. This way you won't get cursed at, spat =
upon or
> worse to by the locals.
>
> 3. Count your change when you get it back, scrutinise your bills for
various
> "unexpected" taxes or fees. But if you find an error and they actually
give
> you your money back, make sure your leave the place as soon as =
possible
and
> NEVER go back. As a matter of fact it's a good idea to always park =
around
> the corner so they don't see what kind of car you are driving. If they =
do
> you may find you will have problems getting back into the US of A, if =
you
> know what I mean.
>
> 4. Don't bother asking directions from anyone, not even a policeman. =
But
if
> you have to ask follow the direction exactly the opposite as they were
given
> if you want any hope at all of finding what you are looking for. It
> sometimes helps if you make it clear that you want to spend American
Dollars
> at the location you are looking for, but only if the person you are =
asking
> is related to or is owed money by the place you are trying to find.
>
> But most of all, have a great time and bring plenty of good American
> Dollars. And enjoy the smile and friendly nod you get as you are =
handing
> cash to a Canadian as it will be the only one you get.
>
>    Jim
>
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>
> > From: Steve Schultz <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>
> > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:38:39 -0400 (EDT)
> > To: "Duane Liptak Jr." <d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*>
> > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Thom
Hadfield
> > <thom.hadfield@ho*.co*>
> > Subject: Re: On high current diving
> >
> >
> >
> > This is what you crazy Americans need to do :-)
> >
> > 1) Take out a map of North America
> > 2) Locate a country called Canada (it's the little country just =
North of
> > the USA ;-) )
> > 3) Look for about 5 big blue blobs and a long thick blue line on the
map.
> > They are right on the Canada-US border.
> >
> > You have now found the Great Lakes and St Lawrence Seaway.
> >
> > You have big, deep, cold lakes with tons of wrecks.  These lakes get
very
> > bad storms on them, hence the wrecks.  It is tough diving, but =
different
> > than ocean diving.  Not tougher.  Not easier.  Different.
> >
> > The St Lawrence is a monster river with wrecks 250' deep.  I've =
heard
that
> > it goes down to ~500', but I really don't know.
> >
> > I've also done the St Clair River when I had a GF that lived there.  =
 I
> > didn't dive it during the *good* season.  I did my dives in =
March-Apr.
> > The vis was 4 ft, the dives were shallow, I couldn't see much of any =
of
> > the wrecks, none of the locals were diving, and there was a ripping
> > current.  It wasn't a 10 kn current (or whatever someone suggested).
I'd
> > really like to do the dives again with a little more vis.
> >
> > Steve (the occasional ocean diver)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Duane Liptak Jr. wrote:
> >
> >> Thom & Cobber,
> >>
> >> While I acknowledge the sea-trials of boat diving, I'm having =
trouble
> >> feeling "manly appreciation" for ocean OR lake divers.  Try driving =
to
the
> >> middle of nowhere on dirt roads, throwing a canoe in a mud choked
stream,
> >> and then proceeding to fill it with 104's, stages, and deco =
bottles.
Hope
> >> rednecks don't strip truck.  Paddle and/or drag (mostly =
drag(through
> >> thigh-deep mud)) said canoe for 2 hours upstream to spring run.  =
Drag
canoe
> >> up log-jammed spring run.  Arrive at spring basin (using the term
loosely).
> >> Finally get to paddle (100 ft).  Watch very carefully for "floating
logs
> >> that move".  Don drysuits while being eaten alive by west nile =
carrying
> >> mosquitos and downing malaria medication.   Don condom cath in =
record
time
> >> to avoid having a "skeeter on yer peter".   Don bottles and fins =
while
> >> standing in knee deep muck.  (Fins slide on easier though)  Grope
around in
> >> 4' vis for cave entrance.  Find colder water and 10' vis.  Yahoo.  =
Tie
into
> >> main line laid circa 1975.  Swim for-frigging-ever.  Wonder why =
floor
is
> >> covered with thousands of square feet of orange marshmallow fluff
looking
> >> stuff. Swear to boost FHe for next dive to see if this is a
hallucination.
> >> Contemplate updating tetanus booster as soon as dive is over.   =
Find
going
> >> tunnel, dump reel.  Vis had increased to 40 ft on way in.  Vis is =
now
zero
> >> on the way out due to ceiling perc because we are the first idiots =
to
bother
> >> coming here since the dawn of time.  Survey by Braille.  Deco out =
in 4'
vis
> >> basin.  Get bumped by 4' long catfish, have heart attack thinking =
it is
an
> >> alligator.  Wait 1/2 hour for bubbles to dissipate.  Load canoe,
weakened by
> >> blood loss.  (Damn mosquitos were waiting for us)  Drag/paddle =
back.
Fight
> >> off rednecks at truck who insist dive partner has "a real perrty
mouth".
> >> Begin preparations for dive 2 and hope Tally clears soon, as the =
banjo
music
> >> fades in the distance.
> >> The above events are a true (mostly) account (exaggeration) of a
typical
> >> (as far as you know) dive in Xxxxxx county, XX (can't tell).  The =
names
of
> >> the rednecks have been changed to protect the inbred.
> >>
> >> Keeping it light,
> >> Duane  ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> --
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`techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
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`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
> >>
> >
> >
>
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size=3D3>Hi Jim,I know=20
if I was a freindly canadian custom's officer(I'm just your<BR>average =
freindly=20
Canadian),I would stick your sorry ass in that white room<BR>for alot =
longer,if=20
I heard any more about your stinkin American<BR>dollars.Randy<BR>----- =
Original=20
Message -----<BR>From: "Jim Cobb" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:cobber@ci*.co*"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>cobber@ci*.co*</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =

size=3D3>><BR>To: "Steve Schultz" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>>; "Duane Liptak Jr."<BR><</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3>d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3>><BR>Cc: <</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3>techdiver@aquanaut.com</FONT></A><FONT =

face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>>; "Thom Hadfield" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:thom.hadfield@ho*.co*"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>thom.hadfield@ho*.co*</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Times New
Roman" =

size=3D3>><BR>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:33 PM<BR>Subject: Re: =
On high=20
current diving<BR><BR><BR>> For those of you who what to actually =
want to do=20
this here are a couple of<BR>> Canadian travel
tips:<BR>><BR>> =
1. If=20
you have anything on "the record" right down to a speeding =
ticket<BR>>=20
prepare to enter a nice, bare white room to get "debriefed" by=20
the<BR>friendly<BR>> Canadian Customs officers. To ease this =
situation makes=20
sure that you say<BR>> that the reason for your visit is "to spend =
lots of=20
American Dollars" then<BR>> they will generally let you in anyway. =
When=20
leaving the country prepare to<BR>> have a repeat of this friendly =
"welcome=20
wagon" performance except it may<BR>> last 4 or 5 hours and your auto =
may get=20
confiscated if they find anything<BR>> even the slightest funny about =
it, say=20
a recent paint job, expired county<BR>> sticker, or anything else of =
that=20
nature. To ease this situation make sure<BR>> you mention that "Boy =
did I=20
spend a large amount of American Dollars in<BR>your<BR>> beautiful=20
country."<BR>><BR>> 2. Once in the country make it clear to =
everybody you=20
deal with that you<BR>> have plenty of American dollars to spend and =
that you=20
are specifically in<BR>> Canada to spend this money. This way you =
won't get=20
cursed at, spat upon or<BR>> worse to by the
locals.<BR>><BR>> =
3. Count=20
your change when you get it back, scrutinise your bills =
for<BR>various<BR>>=20
"unexpected" taxes or fees. But if you find an error and they=20
actually<BR>give<BR>> you your money back, make sure your leave the =
place as=20
soon as possible<BR>and<BR>> NEVER go back. As a matter of fact it's =
a good=20
idea to always park around<BR>> the corner so they don't see what =
kind of car=20
you are driving. If they do<BR>> you may find you will have problems =
getting=20
back into the US of A, if you<BR>> know what I
mean.<BR>><BR>> =
4. Don't=20
bother asking directions from anyone, not even a policeman. =
But<BR>if<BR>>=20
you have to ask follow the direction exactly the opposite as they=20
were<BR>given<BR>> if you want any hope at all of finding what you =
are=20
looking for. It<BR>> sometimes helps if you make it clear that you =
want to=20
spend American<BR>Dollars<BR>> at the location you are looking for, =
but only=20
if the person you are asking<BR>> is related to or is owed money by =
the place=20
you are trying to find.<BR>><BR>> But most of all, have a great =
time and=20
bring plenty of good American<BR>> Dollars. And enjoy the smile and =
friendly=20
nod you get as you are handing<BR>> cash to a Canadian as it will be =
the only=20
one you get.<BR>><BR>>   
Jim<BR>><BR>>  =

-------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&g=
t; =20
Learn About Trimix at </FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/</FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>><BR>> > From: Steve Schultz=20
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3>se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>><BR>> > Date: Wed, 1 Aug =
2001 22:38:39=20
-0400 (EDT)<BR>> > To: "Duane Liptak Jr." <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3>d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3>><BR>> > Cc: </FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>techdiver@aquanaut.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Times New
Roman" =
size=3D3>,=20
Jim Cobb <</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:cobber@ci*.co*"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>cobber@ci*.co*</FONT></A><FONT =

face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>>, Thom<BR>Hadfield<BR>> > =
<</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:thom.hadfield@ho*.co*"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>thom.hadfield@ho*.co*</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Times New
Roman" =

size=3D3>><BR>> > Subject: Re: On high current diving<BR>>=20
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > This is what you crazy =
Americans=20
need to do :-)<BR>> ><BR>> > 1) Take out a map of North=20
America<BR>> > 2) Locate a country called Canada (it's the little =
country=20
just North of<BR>> > the USA ;-) )<BR>> > 3) Look for about =
5 big=20
blue blobs and a long thick blue line on the<BR>map.<BR>> > They =
are right=20
on the Canada-US border.<BR>> ><BR>> > You have now found =
the Great=20
Lakes and St Lawrence Seaway.<BR>> ><BR>> > You have big, =
deep, cold=20
lakes with tons of wrecks.  These lakes get<BR>very<BR>> > =
bad storms=20
on them, hence the wrecks.  It is tough diving, but =
different<BR>> >=20
than ocean diving.  Not tougher.  Not easier.  =
Different.<BR>>=20
><BR>> > The St Lawrence is a monster river with wrecks 250'=20
deep.  I've heard<BR>that<BR>> > it goes down to ~500', but I =
really=20
don't know.<BR>> ><BR>> > I've also done the St Clair River =
when I=20
had a GF that lived there.   I<BR>> > didn't dive it =
during the=20
*good* season.  I did my dives in March-Apr.<BR>> > The vis =
was 4 ft,=20
the dives were shallow, I couldn't see much of any of<BR>> > the =
wrecks,=20
none of the locals were diving, and there was a ripping<BR>> >=20
current.  It wasn't a 10 kn current (or whatever someone=20
suggested).<BR>I'd<BR>> > really like to do the dives again with a =
little=20
more vis.<BR>> ><BR>> > Steve (the occasional ocean =
diver)<BR>>=20
><BR>> ><BR>> > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Duane Liptak Jr.=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Thom & Cobber,<BR>> =
>><BR>>=20
>> While I acknowledge the sea-trials of boat diving, I'm having=20
trouble<BR>> >> feeling "manly appreciation" for ocean OR lake=20
divers.  Try driving to<BR>the<BR>> >> middle of nowhere =
on dirt=20
roads, throwing a canoe in a mud choked<BR>stream,<BR>> >> and =
then=20
proceeding to fill it with 104's, stages, and deco =
bottles.<BR>Hope<BR>>=20
>> rednecks don't strip truck.  Paddle and/or drag (mostly=20
drag(through<BR>> >> thigh-deep mud)) said canoe for 2 hours =
upstream=20
to spring run.  Drag<BR>canoe<BR>> >> up log-jammed spring =

run.  Arrive at spring basin (using the term<BR>loosely).<BR>> =
>>=20
Finally get to paddle (100 ft).  Watch very carefully for=20
"floating<BR>logs<BR>> >> that move".  Don drysuits while =
being=20
eaten alive by west nile carrying<BR>> >> mosquitos and downing =
malaria=20
medication.   Don condom cath in record<BR>time<BR>> =
>> to=20
avoid having a "skeeter on yer peter".   Don bottles and fins=20
while<BR>> >> standing in knee deep muck.  (Fins slide on =
easier=20
though)  Grope<BR>around in<BR>> >> 4' vis for cave=20
entrance.  Find colder water and 10' vis.  Yahoo. =20
Tie<BR>into<BR>> >> main line laid circa 1975.  Swim=20
for-frigging-ever.  Wonder why floor<BR>is<BR>> >> covered =
with=20
thousands of square feet of orange marshmallow fluff<BR>looking<BR>> =
>>=20
stuff. Swear to boost FHe for next dive to see if this is=20
a<BR>hallucination.<BR>> >> Contemplate updating tetanus =
booster as=20
soon as dive is over.   Find<BR>going<BR>> >> tunnel, =
dump=20
reel.  Vis had increased to 40 ft on way in.  Vis is=20
now<BR>zero<BR>> >> on the way out due to ceiling perc because =
we are=20
the first idiots to<BR>bother<BR>> >> coming here since the =
dawn of=20
time.  Survey by Braille.  Deco out in 4'<BR>vis<BR>> =
>>=20
basin.  Get bumped by 4' long catfish, have heart attack thinking =
it=20
is<BR>an<BR>> >> alligator.  Wait 1/2 hour for bubbles to=20
dissipate.  Load canoe,<BR>weakened by<BR>> >> blood =
loss. =20
(Damn mosquitos were waiting for us)  Drag/paddle =
back.<BR>Fight<BR>>=20
>> off rednecks at truck who insist dive partner has "a real=20
perrty<BR>mouth".<BR>> >> Begin preparations for dive 2 and =
hope Tally=20
clears soon, as the banjo<BR>music<BR>> >> fades in the=20
distance.<BR>> >> The above events are a true (mostly) account=20
(exaggeration) of a<BR>typical<BR>> >> (as far as you know) =
dive in=20
Xxxxxx county, XX (can't tell).  The names<BR>of<BR>> >> =
the=20
rednecks have been changed to protect the inbred.<BR>> =
>><BR>>=20
>> Keeping it light,<BR>> >> Duane  ;-)<BR>>=20
>><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >>
...<BR>>=20
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