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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:13:06 -0400
Subject: Re: On high current diving
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Wendell Grogan <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
CC: Steve Schultz <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>,
     "Duane Liptak Jr." , ,
     Thom Hadfield
I am beginning to suspect it's Quebec that's the problem, not Canada as
whole. I think they have that uniquely "French" attitude which was
demonstrated to me so thoroughly on a visit to Strasbourg a few years ago.

Hey, Canucks, if Quebec finally attempts to succeed from the union I will
volunteer to go up there and fight on the nationalist side just for the
pleasure of shooting a few Quebecians. Hey, I just noticed that "Quebec" is
not in my spell checker, wonder why?

On the other side of the coin, Germany is absolutely the friendliest country
I've ever been to, followed closely by Spain.

   Jim
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> From: Wendell Grogan <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 22:24:05 -0400
> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> Cc: Steve Schultz <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>, "Duane Liptak Jr."
> <d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com, Thom Hadfield
> <thom.hadfield@ho*.co*>
> Subject: Re: On high current diving
> 
> Jeez Cobber, did you go to Canada or New Jersey??
> I pop in and out of our neighbor to the north a couple of times a year
> at least and have always come away with a feeling that nobody can be
> that nice!  I love the part of the movie Canadian Bacon where they make
> fun of how polite and friendly Canadians are, because for the past 30
> years or so, that's the way they've always been to me!
> Speaking of "Canadian Bacon", did you perhaps make a rude comment about
> canadian beer?  Apparently, that's the only way to get them pissed off
> at you.  I've never tried it, although I did make some less than
> complementary remakes about their wine once and lived to tell the tale:)
> Wendell
> 
> Jim Cobb wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who what to actually want to do this here are a couple of
>> Canadian travel tips:
>> 
>> 1. If you have anything on "the record" right down to a speeding ticket
>> prepare to enter a nice, bare white room to get "debriefed" by the friendly
>> Canadian Customs officers. To ease this situation makes sure that you say
>> that the reason for your visit is "to spend lots of American Dollars" then
>> they will generally let you in anyway. When leaving the country prepare to
>> have a repeat of this friendly "welcome wagon" performance except it may
>> last 4 or 5 hours and your auto may get confiscated if they find anything
>> even the slightest funny about it, say a recent paint job, expired county
>> sticker, or anything else of that nature. To ease this situation make sure
>> you mention that "Boy did I spend a large amount of American Dollars in your
>> beautiful country."
>> 
>> 2. Once in the country make it clear to everybody you deal with that you
>> have plenty of American dollars to spend and that you are specifically in
>> Canada to spend this money. This way you won't get cursed at, spat upon or
>> worse to by the locals.
>> 
>> 3. Count your change when you get it back, scrutinise your bills for various
>> "unexpected" taxes or fees. But if you find an error and they actually give
>> you your money back, make sure your leave the place as soon as possible and
>> NEVER go back. As a matter of fact it's a good idea to always park around
>> the corner so they don't see what kind of car you are driving. If they do
>> you may find you will have problems getting back into the US of A, if you
>> know what I mean.
>> 
>> 4. Don't bother asking directions from anyone, not even a policeman. But if
>> you have to ask follow the direction exactly the opposite as they were given
>> if you want any hope at all of finding what you are looking for. It
>> sometimes helps if you make it clear that you want to spend American Dollars
>> at the location you are looking for, but only if the person you are asking
>> is related to or is owed money by the place you are trying to find.
>> 
>> But most of all, have a great time and bring plenty of good American
>> Dollars. And enjoy the smile and friendly nod you get as you are handing
>> cash to a Canadian as it will be the only one you get.
>> 
>> Jim
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>>> From: Steve Schultz <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>
>>> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:38:39 -0400 (EDT)
>>> To: "Duane Liptak Jr." <d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*>
>>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Thom Hadfield
>>> <thom.hadfield@ho*.co*>
>>> Subject: Re: On high current diving
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is what you crazy Americans need to do :-)
>>> 
>>> 1) Take out a map of North America
>>> 2) Locate a country called Canada (it's the little country just North of
>>> the USA ;-) )
>>> 3) Look for about 5 big blue blobs and a long thick blue line on the map.
>>> They are right on the Canada-US border.
>>> 
>>> You have now found the Great Lakes and St Lawrence Seaway.
>>> 
>>> You have big, deep, cold lakes with tons of wrecks.  These lakes get very
>>> bad storms on them, hence the wrecks.  It is tough diving, but different
>>> than ocean diving.  Not tougher.  Not easier.  Different.
>>> 
>>> The St Lawrence is a monster river with wrecks 250' deep.  I've heard that
>>> it goes down to ~500', but I really don't know.
>>> 
>>> I've also done the St Clair River when I had a GF that lived there.   I
>>> didn't dive it during the *good* season.  I did my dives in March-Apr.
>>> The vis was 4 ft, the dives were shallow, I couldn't see much of any of
>>> the wrecks, none of the locals were diving, and there was a ripping
>>> current.  It wasn't a 10 kn current (or whatever someone suggested).  I'd
>>> really like to do the dives again with a little more vis.
>>> 
>>> Steve (the occasional ocean diver)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Duane Liptak Jr. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thom & Cobber,
>>>> 
>>>> While I acknowledge the sea-trials of boat diving, I'm having trouble
>>>> feeling "manly appreciation" for ocean OR lake divers.  Try driving to the
>>>> middle of nowhere on dirt roads, throwing a canoe in a mud choked stream,
>>>> and then proceeding to fill it with 104's, stages, and deco bottles.   Hope
>>>> rednecks don't strip truck.  Paddle and/or drag (mostly drag(through
>>>> thigh-deep mud)) said canoe for 2 hours upstream to spring run.  Drag canoe
>>>> up log-jammed spring run.  Arrive at spring basin (using the term loosely).
>>>> Finally get to paddle (100 ft).  Watch very carefully for "floating logs
>>>> that move".  Don drysuits while being eaten alive by west nile carrying
>>>> mosquitos and downing malaria medication.   Don condom cath in record time
>>>> to avoid having a "skeeter on yer peter".   Don bottles and fins while
>>>> standing in knee deep muck.  (Fins slide on easier though)  Grope around in
>>>> 4' vis for cave entrance.  Find colder water and 10' vis.  Yahoo.  Tie into
>>>> main line laid circa 1975.  Swim for-frigging-ever.  Wonder why floor is
>>>> covered with thousands of square feet of orange marshmallow fluff looking
>>>> stuff. Swear to boost FHe for next dive to see if this is a hallucination.
>>>> Contemplate updating tetanus booster as soon as dive is over.   Find going
>>>> tunnel, dump reel.  Vis had increased to 40 ft on way in.  Vis is now zero
>>>> on the way out due to ceiling perc because we are the first idiots to
>>>> bother
>>>> coming here since the dawn of time.  Survey by Braille.  Deco out in 4' vis
>>>> basin.  Get bumped by 4' long catfish, have heart attack thinking it is an
>>>> alligator.  Wait 1/2 hour for bubbles to dissipate.  Load canoe, weakened
>>>> by
>>>> blood loss.  (Damn mosquitos were waiting for us)  Drag/paddle back.  Fight
>>>> off rednecks at truck who insist dive partner has "a real perrty mouth".
>>>> Begin preparations for dive 2 and hope Tally clears soon, as the banjo
>>>> music
>>>> fades in the distance.
>>>> The above events are a true (mostly) account (exaggeration) of a typical
>>>> (as far as you know) dive in Xxxxxx county, XX (can't tell).  The names of
>>>> the rednecks have been changed to protect the inbred.
>>>> 
>>>> Keeping it light,
>>>> Duane  ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ...
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