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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:59:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
Subject: cement pig!
To: Charles Ayash <cagraphics@mi*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
So, open water training may include a tour of the "cavern zone" in North
Florida? Then right after the course it's OK for the instructor to take them
over to this place Royal springs, issue them a light and then cut them loose??
How far in did they get.


-----Original Message-----
From: "Charles Ayash"<cagraphics@mi*.co*>
To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>
Date: Thu Aug 02 06:56:09 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: cement pig

>I was at Ginnie last Saturday and there were a group of about 8
>divers in the Devils Spring run.
>
>None had lights and I am guessing that they were just playing in the Run
>and the basin of the Ear.
>
>Prior to becoming Cave Certified I would do the same dive and also
>scuba downstream back to Ginnie Spring.
>
>Ginnie Cavern  is also a favorite for OW instructors.
>
>A OW Diver is allowed a light at Ginnie Cavern but if shows up at the Devils
>then Security will turn them back.
>
>I hope this reply is not off base on the subject.
>
>Charlie
>
>At 04:02 AM 8/2/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>>Yes, I think that was the one. So what's the deal are open water students
>getting certified open water doing dives in the overhead at Genie springs
>camping grounds? If so is that a contributory factor in these deaths?
>>
>>Or where these people  just committing suicide?
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "David E. Smith"<dsmith218@ho*.co*>
>>To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>
>>Date: Wed Aug 01 19:07:49 PDT 2001
>>Subject: Re: cement pig
>>
>>>The story about the divers (and the pig) sounds like Royal Springs.
>>>
>>>dsmith218@ho*.co*
>>>ICQ# 25409809
>>>
>>>Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. -
>>>Polver
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: terry michael [mailto:OEA51@go*.co*]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:00 AM
>>>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>>Subject: cement pig
>>>
>>>
>>>I was reading this article in the NSS journal about a tragic cave fatality
>>>involving two freshly certified OW divers who got killed on their very first
>>>"real dive" and then had to be recovered. According to the article the
>>>instructor invited them along to retrieve a cement pig, from a spring in
>>>north Florida. They were apparently given one light and then preceded to
>>>swim into the cave and got lost and killed. The instructor that just
>>>certified them over at called Genie Springs was at the site at the time but
>>>was busy with another diver who was having trouble equalizing his ears. The
>>>other two must have decided to explore the cavern at some point with the
>>>single light between them. So my question is this: do the instructors take
>>>the OW students into the overhead during the open water course at Genie
>>>Springs camping resort? If so how does that work? Just curious.
>>>Thanx
>>>
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