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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C11A07.7879DC70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, our stuff is done by Navy and others, but there is no input on treatment. We did have a guy who needed repair, and what he did is the usual : repeated oxygen rides. Personally, if it were me, I'd be at Ocean Hyperbaric getting them to run me as deep as they could on oxygen with a motorcycle helmet on . They let me do 4.0 in there for an hour one time to see if I would tox, and they know the value of hyperbaric oxygen when all else fails. The only treatment I have ever heard of for this degree of damage is the severe oxygen trips repeatedly and drugs that stop the brain and spine from swelling, used in normal paralysis cases. The problem is , you need non idiots at the helm when you have to deal with this kind of thing, not some chamber bozo or non-diving doc. Usually, you need to do this immediately, not after the fact. This poor kid obviously had a gaping ASD or PFO, and took the worst kind of hit. This is the kind of thing that the scumbags at the training agencies don't seem to want to warn people about. Otherwise, there is one other trick we used, but that was a guess on my part and I doubt anyone will back that one up, and I am am not sure that even was what worked in the end, but I will tell you privately what is was that we tried. I don't want the howling assholes all over me for that one ( a Bill Mee special , but he is a biomedical engineer ). If you really want the best advice on the planet with regard to this kind of thing, contact the University of Zurich. They have seen it all and have tried it all , and may be able to advise your doc on what course of action to take. Try that and keep them running him on oxygen as deep as he can stand it. -----Original Message----- From: SRS [mailto:sstraat1@ta*.rr*.co*] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:37 AM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: DCS incident I'd appreciate it if anyone can forward to me info regarding DCS treatment in the Michigan area - had a friend's nephew (16 years old, fairly experienced) get hit while on a 90 ft./:20 dive in Lake Michigan. Can't walk/urinate after two chamber rides. Who are the experts in that area, or who else (anywhere) should they consult. Trey, if you see this, whose the doc. who did the doppler studies on the WKPP guys (U. of MIami?) - the friend of mine lives down there, she could get info from him? Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Steve Straatsma ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C11A07.7879DC70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D592511201-01082001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Steve,=20 our stuff is done by Navy and others, but there is no input on = treatment. We did=20 have a guy who needed repair, and what he did is the usual : repeated = oxygen=20 rides. Personally, if it were me, I'd be at Ocean Hyperbaric getting = them to run=20 me as deep as they could on oxygen with a motorcycle helmet on . They = let me do=20 4.0 in there for an hour one time to see if I would tox, and they know = the value=20 of hyperbaric oxygen when all else = fails. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D592511201-01082001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D592511201-01082001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>The=20 only treatment I have ever heard of for this degree of damage is the = severe=20 oxygen trips repeatedly and drugs that stop the brain and spine from = swelling,=20 used in normal paralysis cases. The problem is , you need non idiots at = the helm=20 when you have to deal with this kind of thing, not some chamber bozo or=20 non-diving doc. Usually, you need to do this immediately, not after the = fact.=20 This poor kid obviously had a gaping ASD or PFO, and took the worst kind = of hit.=20 This is the kind of thing that the scumbags at the training agencies = don't seem=20 to want to warn people about.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D592511201-01082001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D592511201-01082001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2> Otherwise, there is one other trick we used, but that was = a guess=20 on my part and I doubt anyone will back that one up, and I am am not = sure that=20 even was what worked in the end, but I will tell you privately what is = was that=20 we tried. I don't want the howling assholes all over me for that one ( a = Bill=20 Mee special , but he is a biomedical engineer ).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D592511201-01082001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D592511201-01082001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2> If you really want the best advice on the planet with = regard to=20 this kind of thing, contact the University of Zurich. They have seen it = all and=20 have tried it all , and may be able to advise your doc on what course of = action=20 to take. Try that and keep them running him on oxygen as deep as he can = stand=20 it. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> SRS=20 [mailto:sstraat1@ta*.rr*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 31, = 2001 4:37=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> DCS=20 incident<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd appreciate it if anyone can = forward to me=20 info regarding DCS treatment in the Michigan area - had a friend's = nephew (16=20 years old, fairly experienced) get hit while on a 90 ft./:20 dive in = Lake=20 Michigan. Can't walk/urinate after two chamber rides. Who are the = experts in=20 that area, or who else (anywhere) should they consult. Trey, if = you see=20 this, whose the doc. who did the doppler studies on the WKPP guys (U. = of=20 MIami?) - the friend of mine lives down there, she could get info from = him?=20 Any help is appreciated.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve=20 Straatsma</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C11A07.7879DC70-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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