JT, this guy Reichardt is a typical of those who can not find a legitimate argument against the techniques used by the WKPP, so resorts to lies, rumor, hearsay, and fabrication. When caught lying by the person he was lying about, Pina, he wrote to her privately and told her he was "there and saw it", not realizing he was talking to the very person he was defaming, These people will do ANYTHING to fight with me, but have NOTHING to say but lies and nonsense. I have run the WKPP for 9 years now, and in that time we have executed some 15,000 man dive hours of long range, deep, mixed gas cave exploration dives (not counting deco time) using multiple persons and locations and employing the most innovative decompression and other techniques yet discovered, with a success rate UNMATCHED in any form of untethered diving. We do bottom times that equal a month of anyone else's "tech" diving, and decompress out in a fraction of what is considered "normal", and validate this with Doppler studies, blood work, x-rays and MRI's performed by doctors from organizations like Navy, Duke, DAN, and elsewhere. Tell them we don't know what we are doing. I will be glad to go over any bends cases that we can learn something from, as opposed to somebody "thinking" they were bent when they were not (done it already on several lists) anytime any of you want to stop being resentful and start listening up to the guy who does it best. Any time. We are very good at avoiding all kinds of bends with our experience. For example, JT Barker and I seem to have no problem discussing these things, but we have a mutual interest in avoiding accidents on our teams. My team and I have no problem discussing these things. We have no problem discussing them on the Quest list. Other organizations that need to know have no problem discussing these things and their own experiences with me. Tell me why I have to listen to the IANTD/TDI/etc guys lie about it while bringing NOTHING to the table in this sport? The ONLY people who have EVER been bent who are even WKPP divers were either doing something counter to what I told them to do like bouncing or ignoring deep stops (and that rarely happens at a WKPP site, and not with me around or they never dive again), or had a preexisting condition that went unnoticed for a short while (those people all then recused themselves from doing this, obviously). If somebody does get bent on a WKPP dive, I INSIST that the ambulance be called and that the victim goes to the chamber, so it is very public information. If I somebody on my team gets bent anywhere else, I will be all over them until they get to a chamber. Ask for that reality and fact, not the baloney that the resentful want to spread. We play hardball - we are ready to accept the consequences and have all of our protocols in place and our team fully trained to deal with anything. Who else does that? Step up and show me. Ask around instead of listening to the peanut gallery. More students have died in other agency "tech" training classes than there are bends cases on WKPP dives - way more. FACT. I challenge anyone out there to put their track record up against mine, or to show me a better way, or even to understand what I am doing in the first place. The recent lies came from a guy ( Eric Reichardt) that got on the FL tech list and said "helium is narcotic". A few WKPP guys laughed at him so he came up with the lies about my girlfriend and me as his argument. He then added to those lies in private posts to many people. Certainly, anyone who can not show experience at my level or is running a dive organization as successfully as I have has no business denigrating me, the WKPP or any of its members, and NOBODY has any right to lie, slander and fabricate stories and "proof" about it like this guy Reichardt did. Some of you more resentful people (usually TDI or IANTD affiliates of some kind or "instructors") think it is ok to lie about us since you do not like us. Let me assure you it is not. Let me assure you that I will continue to tell the truth about all of you, and with THAT truth, who needs lies? I could not make up things more ridiculous, stupid and tragic than what your people do and defend. I have never said anything about anyone that was not true, and by true I mean that I did not know FIRST HAND to be true. I have made it very clear what my opinion is of some of your instructor heroes and "mentors" out there, and my opinion never included lies, slander or hearsay. In fact, it generally is nothing but an expression of the obvious, and there is nobody on here who can show where I am either wrong or have said anything that is not true. The fact is you just do not like the message because it is contrary to yours. It is absolutely ridiculous that with the track record of death, accidents, misinformation and nonsense courses (like deep air) out of the training agencies that an organization which has represented the leading edge of this sport while promoting safety above all else should be subject to ridicule and lies out of people who are not only incapable of doing what we do and have never done anything like it, but whose track records reflect the opposite of ours. How long are the resentful going to fight the best and the safest while representing the worst, most mediocre, and most dangerous organizations out there? Let's ask Eric Reichardt that, and maybe he can tell us all why lying is a good thing and why compounding the lie with more lies is a good thing. Well, Dave? Do you people realize that after all my time on the job and all of the people I have involved and taken responsibility for, and all of the extreme dives my team has done and all of the records we have set and all of the innovations we have come up with over all of these years that the best any of you can come up with is personal lies about me and what you think I might have done as a kid, or lies about my girlfriend? Do I need to get out the scorecard and read it to all of you again? Do you realize that most of the training agencies have more dead instructors in the last five years than I have had TOTAL gas divers pass through my organization? Hello? Get real: either stand up to me with an argument that has some merit about how or why my methods don't work (or why yours are better), or shut up about me and my organization. Since none of you can do it, shutting up the option you need to choose. I am sick of liars, and so is everyone else. In case you have not noticed, that is why GUE, EE, Halcyon, etc. are so successful - everyone is sick of the big lies in diving. I have changed all of that, and the losers are still crying about it. No more, no less. Reichardt is a typical lying loser. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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