The reg is a piece of shit, and only a complete moron would use something
that required 170 psi intermediate pressure. What is it you guys just don't
get about thinking it through and finding real solutions? Why is it none of
you can get the most basic and simple understanding of anything , yet can
muster up endless arguments about why bullshit is a great idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: David E. Smith [mailto:dsmith218@ho*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:32 PM
To: Matthias Voss; Manos Manoli
Cc: Ed Street; rfuller@te*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die


You don't need tools to reach the 2nd stage diaphragm on the Cyklon 500
if you remove the retaining ring (which is not truly necessary anyway) and
leave it removed prior to diving.  Although, I think most people using
Poseidon regs are diving the Jetstreem/Odin.  And you certainly DO need
tools for that IF you were to disassemble.

David E. Smith

dsmith218@ho*.co*
ICQ# 25409809

Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. -
Polver




-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Voss [mailto:mat.voss@t-*.de*]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:14 PM
To: Manos Manoli
Cc: Ed Street; rfuller@te*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die


Manos,
while most of your observations are correct, you may have missed some of
the good reasons why to choose which gear.

The operational flaw of the poseidon regs is that you cannot reach the
2nd stage membrane without tools.
This is an issue when you have to deposit and leave bottles at sites
where silt and dirt entering the reg can create a problem, really not
that much , if at all, on  a single dive to a wreck.
A likely flaw of the poseidon jetstream is offbleeding when supply
pressure drops below , say 40 bar. should not be a problem unles you
call for it.

Same goes for the clipping. No silt, dirt, corrosion( hopefully), no
clipping to vital parts which won't come off under stress, probably no
problem . I agree it should be a direktive to be able to  loosen any
connection made with means on hand durng the dive, though.

For the stages, do you know the manufacturer, and their bouancy
properties ? For sure ?
There are pretty light steel bottles around here.
Matthias


Manos Manoli schrieb:
>
> My GOD look at this guys ,  to be a stroke or no to be !!!
> Inspiration rebreathers , Steel stages on each side , OMS type wings ,
> Poseidon's regulators, handheld Lights ,  Hardware clips , Carbines , you
name
> it !!
> On their doubles BIIG stickers  T R I M I X.  Boodies on stages !! No
markings
> on stages !!!!! And they claim records and people have them as reference
!!!.
>
> >>Besides the worlds record deepest cold water dive<<
> What is this b#%#t ....
>
> Christmas time is getting close anyway !!!!!
>
> Manos Manoli
> www.smiley.cy.net/cytech
>
> For those idiots that didnt get it yet
>
> Ed Street wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > LOL! words of wisdom.  Tho when I dive in 50°F + water I don't use a
hood.
> > If it's cold enough for me to wear a hood it's to cold for me to dive!
;)  I
> > didn't notice the no hood thing nor did I get the water temp.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Fuller [mailto:rfuller@te*.ne*]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:07 AM
> > To: 'Ed Street'; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: RE: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > I know nothing about the Inspiration units so I'm not going to enter
that
> > discussion.
> >
> > However, I *do* know something about cold water diving.  Anybody that
would
> > dive in cold water, not to mention one that's 170m deep with huge
> > decompression obligations, without wearing a hood is brain-dead.
> >
> > Since the only bareheaded person in the pics was the one with the
> > Inspiration unit there might be something to this :-)
> >
> > --Rob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Street [mailto:blacknet@ph*.ne*]
> > Sent: 8.Jul.2001 8:15 AM
> > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: RE: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Someone wanna tell me why alot of ppl here doesn't like the inspiration
> > units?  From what  I've seen on them and the people i've talked to who
uses
> > that unit they good units.  The only negativity i've seen was from this
> > list.
> >
> > Besides the worlds record deepest cold water dive to the HMS Dasher
aircraft
> > carrier included an inspiration on the dive team, but they didn't use
DIR
> > (Died In Recompression) so I don't expect anyone here to understand it.
For
> > those of you with open minds here's the link to the memorial service
they
> > conducted http://www.technicaldivers.com/hms_dasher.html
> >
> > Ed
> >
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