It can't hurt. I do it or something like it most of the time

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hoover [mailto:Don.Hoover@da*.ne*]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:13 AM
To: trey@ne*.co*; Don Hoover; Bryon Bertrim; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Your way


Say a dive in  Devils Ear past the table to the first junction, about 90
ffw, twenty minutes in, twenty minutes out.  I did a five minute stop at 20
ffw...using EAN 32%. Then an easy swim to the ladder, ten minutes on the
surface...then out.  I know a wienie dive but developing skills to complete
Cave 2 with GUE.

Would you do that transition on the surface..10 minutes?


-----Original Message-----
From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:12 AM
To: Don Hoover; Bryon Bertrim; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Your way



depends on the length of the dive

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hoover [mailto:Don.Hoover@da*.ne*]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:32 AM
To: trey@ne*.co*; Bryon Bertrim; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Your way


George,

That slow assent from 20 feet to the surface is that slower that 10ft/min?
Also, do you incorporate a surface transition before getting out of the
water...say 10 minutes of resting on the surface?



-----Original Message-----
From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:10 AM
To: Bryon Bertrim; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Your way



What are you asking me? First, I would try to keep the time less than 30 and
even less than 25, meaning 25 starting the clock at the bottom. I would use
50-90% helium, 10-14% oxygen. I would use 50/50 and oxygen to deco on, and
maybe a 35/25 bottle from 120 especially if this were a second dive or multi
day diving ( this would shorten my high ppo2 exposure, this is not related
to the weenie bullshit about second dives, only the oxygen damage ). Ascent
rate is 30 fpm from the bottom consciously stopping at each ten foot
increment to be sure to hold the slow rate, and the first deco stop would be
at 190, then ten foot increments for 30-40 seconds until you hit the
standard curve, then lengthen the gas switch stops and eliminate the ten
foot stop and you should have it about right. Very slow ascent from 20 to
the surface. The whole deco and ascent would be less than an hour. I
personally do that one with about 45 minutes total. If you do the lower part
correctly , there is nothing to unwind later up higher. If you do not, like
most people do not, then there is no amount of time on oxygen that will stop
the damage, but will only make it worse.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryon Bertrim [mailto:bryon@be*.co*]
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:59 PM
To: Trey; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Your way


George what is your way to a 250 Ft open water dive for 30 Min BT. I know
Deco planner etc

BB




----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: "Matthias Voss" <mat.voss@t-*.de*>
Cc: "Manos Manoli" <cytech@ma*.co*.cy*>; "Tech Diver"
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: 33m Narcosis


>
> It is great stuff - you lose you abilities and you don't care.
"Adaptation"
> is like closing one eye when driving drunk. Ask any drunk if he is ok to
> drive and see if you can find one that ever says "no".
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthias Voss [mailto:mat.voss@t-*.de*]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:40 AM
> To: Trey
> Cc: Manos Manoli; Tech Diver
> Subject: Re: 33m Narcosis
>
>
> Agreed!
> So when going down fast, it is the lower order brain functions, like
> equilibrium, motion control, that get impaired first, this  is monitored
> by the higher functions, which then seem to be impaired as well,
> ......adaptation.
> When going down slowly, the higher functions are affected hand in hand,
> so no monitoring.
> Though, I have seen amazing inter- and intraindividual adaptations. Not
> enough to make a system of it ...
> Matthias
>
> Trey schrieb:
> >
> > Mathias, you just notice it better when it is fast, as you would notice
> the
> > buzz if you dropped deep on air real fast. If you go slowly, the higher
> > order brain functions will tell you you are OK.
>
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