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From: "George Irvine" <George-Irvine@em*.ne*>
To: "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>, "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>,
     "Techlist"
Subject: Re: accident
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 06:32:01 -0400
http://hyperbaric.mc.duke.edu/NASA.html.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>
To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>; "Techlist" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: accident


> Do you have a boilerplate or link to definitions of Grade 1,2,3,4 ?
>
> Scott
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> To: "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>; "Techlist" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:55 AM
> Subject: RE: accident
>
>
> >
> > Scott, we have checked with Doppler for some number of years. The two
> things
> > that we get from this are 1) if the deco produced a low count, and 2)
how
> > long it takes us to peak in bubbles and clear. We run several teams on
> > similar profiles and then we followed slightly different protocols and
> then
> > started the Doppler testing as soon as the divers surfaced and every
half
> > hour afterwards. In on case, we had Rose do it right and everyone else
> from
> > Trout to JJ do it almost right, and I just blew straight to the surface
> from
> > the 30 foot stop. Now it got interesting: Rose showed almost no bubbles
at
> > all - grade 1 at most. The others showed some increase on that all the
way
> > up to me who showed grade 4. Dr Johansen said I should "go to the
> chamber".
> > When I stopped laughing, he tested me again - nothing , not even grade
> one,
> > and that being only 1/2 hour later. This is just one example, but over
> time
> > what we found was that our standard methods as seen on our website are
> > perfect, and the guys in the best shape as measured by VO2 max clear the
> > fastest.
> >
> > The other tests we ran were the standard neurologicals and evaluation by
> > Navy professionals ( who are on the team ) and we draw blood before and
> > after looking for markers of damage. We do the blood on me and JJ - so
far
> > nothing. Scott Hunsucker is in charge of this area of our research.
> >
> > By the way, it is so funny to listen to the morons try to tell us about
> > deco. The rebreather idiots keep yelling "constant ppo2" , the weenies
> keep
> > doing massive decoes, and the real idiots ( IANTD types ) use the wrong
> > gasses.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott [mailto:scottk@nw*.co*]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:55 AM
> > To: Techlist; Trey
> > Subject: Re: accident
> >
> >
> > How much of a role did Doppler Stethoscopes play in your research?
> >
> > I know you guys worked with Hamilton and Mee, but how about a little of
> the
> > nuts and bolts of your development
> > protocol?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > To: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>; <decoweenie@ya*.co*>;
> <george.morris@ci*.co*>;
> > <adamjma@op*.ne*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:49 PM
> > Subject: RE: accident
> >
> >
> > > Some is pretty close, but the upper intermediate steps in RGBM are too
> > long
> > > and do not take advantage of some of my other tricks. For instance, I
> can
> > to
> > > 6 hours at 300 and the total deco is 8, and the 40 foot stop is 20
> > minutes.
> > > RGBM will have that 40 stop out to the moon.  I pressed that one a
while
> > > back in an experiment, figuring I could go back and redeco if I got
hit,
> > and
> > > it worked . There are a bunch of other differences as well. We do some
> > > pretty radical stuff, but when then it works better than anything
anyone
> > has
> > > ever come up with.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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