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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C104D6.5E5FBE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thom, Are you sure that you've had a good serious look through both the = archives, and the web sites for the discussed agencies. If you have, I = am surprised that you have asked this question. This is my own opinion, but I'm sure others would agree. For a business = to function within a global market, they must be profitable. No one will = disagree with this fact. You can make a profit supplying a high quality product. You can make a profit supplying a crap product. Thousands of dodgy businesses world wide can attest to this fact. Switch = on your TV and watch some infomercials. Companies who supply crap product often rely on hype to create a target = market. They take a marketable product such as tec diving gloss it up, = add in many unnessary steps to gain margin, then sell it along with = enough clauses to escape a serious law suit. Companies that supply a high quality product have nothing to fear. = Nothing. They can charge a profit margin to grow their business and fund = research. People will pay what they ask. The consumer really has no one to blame but them selves. With = information as readily available as it is today, it is up to consumers = to seek out businesses which provide the products they require. Then = research these companies and make a decision based on the information = they have found. I am not going to comment on what businesses I favor. Anyone I care = about already knows what I think. But if you seriously look, even just = at the web sites of the various agencies around, It should be very clear = who is out to sell crap and who is there to sell quality. DIR is not free, The correct gear is more expensive. If you want cheap I = suggest frisbee throwing.=20 DIR Theory is free, and available at your finger tips if you take the = time to do the research.=20 If you fall for a glossy poster on the wall of your local dive store = selling "tek" diving. I would suggest that Technical diving was never = for you in the first place. If you need help finding the sites needed, mail me back and I'll copy = you my bookmarks. Kind regards Chaz Sherman ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thom Hadfield=20 To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: money hungry groups Just as a thought. I read a post a little bit ago that called Mount = and IANTD and others money hungry for offering classes. While I am not = disagreeing because I am lookinh at haveing to pay for an advance class = eventhough I am proficient in what I would learn from that class I still = need to take it to move into some of the other classes I would like to = take. I was diving with an x instructor this last weekend who confirmed = that I would not benifit much from an advanced class and suggested that = I would fair better to spend that money to improve my gear. Which I = agree but back to the point. DIR I assume also charges for classes as = well? So why would your opinion be different about DIR. A business = cannot exist without profit. I am not trying to put any orginization = down but it sounded like that post was as blind as the people they were = talking about. I learn a lot from this list and also weed through the BS and I know = this is technical diving so promoting the sport falls by the way side in = order to minimise risks. The people on this list already took the plunge = into diving for the most part. So I can understand the bickering. = However, because people make money for what they teach in my eyes is not = a valid argument in and of it's self. Unless DIR is free then I = apologise Thom ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C104D6.5E5FBE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>Thom,</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>Are you sure that you've had a = good serious=20 look through both the archives, and the web sites for the discussed = agencies. If=20 you have, I am surprised that you have asked this question.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>This is my own opinion, but I'm = sure others=20 would agree. For a business to function within a global market, they = must be=20 profitable. No one will disagree with this fact.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>You can make a profit supplying = a high=20 quality product.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>You can make a profit supplying = a crap=20 product.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>Thousands of dodgy businesses = world wide can=20 attest to this fact. Switch on your TV and watch some = infomercials.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>Companies who supply crap = product often rely=20 on hype to create a target market. They take a marketable product such = as tec=20 diving gloss it up, add in many unnessary steps to gain margin, then = sell it=20 along with enough clauses to escape a serious law suit.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>Companies that supply a high = quality product=20 have nothing to fear. Nothing. They can charge a profit margin to grow = their=20 business and fund research. People will pay what they ask.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial><FONT face=3DArial>The consumer = really has no=20 one to blame but them selves. With information as readily available as = it is=20 today, it is up to consumers to seek out businesses which provide = the=20 products they require. Then research these companies and make a decision = based=20 on the information they have found.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>I am not going to comment on = what businesses=20 I favor. Anyone I care about already knows what I think. But if you = seriously=20 look, even just at the web sites of the various agencies around, It = should=20 be very clear who is out to sell crap and who is there to sell=20 quality.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>DIR is not free, The = correct gear is=20 more expensive. If you want cheap I suggest frisbee = throwing. </FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>DIR Theory is free, and = available at=20 your finger tips if you take the time to do the = research.</FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>If you fall for a glossy poster = on the wall=20 of your local dive store selling "tek" diving. I would suggest that = Technical=20 diving was never for you in the first place.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>If you need help finding the = sites needed,=20 mail me back and I'll copy you my bookmarks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>Kind regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial>Chaz Sherman</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <DIV align=3Djustify> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:thom.hadfield@ho*.co*" = title=3Dthom.hadfield@ho*.co*>Thom=20 Hadfield</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20 title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 03, 2001 = 5:21=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> money hungry = groups</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just as a thought. I read a post a = little bit ago=20 that called Mount and IANTD and others money hungry for offering = classes.=20 While I am not disagreeing because I am lookinh at haveing to pay for = an=20 advance class eventhough I am proficient in what I would learn from = that class=20 I still need to take it to move into some of the other classes I would = like to=20 take. I was diving with an x instructor this last weekend who = confirmed that I=20 would not benifit much from an advanced class and suggested that I = would fair=20 better to spend that money to improve my gear. Which I agree but back = to the=20 point. DIR I assume also charges for classes as well? So why would = your=20 opinion be different about DIR. A business cannot exist without = profit. I am=20 not trying to put any orginization down but it sounded like that post = was as=20 blind as the people they were talking about.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I learn a lot from this list and also = weed=20 through the BS and I know this is technical diving so promoting the = sport=20 falls by the way side in order to minimise risks. The people on this = list=20 already took the plunge into diving for the most part. So I can = understand the=20 bickering. However, because people make money for what they teach in = my eyes=20 is not a valid argument in and of it's self. Unless DIR is free then I = apologise</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Thom</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C104D6.5E5FBE90-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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