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Hey Art, think about this, it was mentioned I think twice in the report about a bailout plan. How do you bail out of a 300' CCR dive while only carrying (1) Al 80 w/ 10/50 and (1) Al 40 w/ O2? If the rebreather was mal-functioning how do you decompress with those gases on open circuit? Adam Volosik ----- Original Message ----- From: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*> To: <mhkane@pr*.ne*>; <cobber@ci*.co*>; <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:52 PM Subject: RE: accident > You know, that's a really good point. I just ran a 5 minute dive to 300 > using an 8/60 mix as stated in the original post using Decom and I only come > up with a total dive time of 43 minutes using 50/50 and O2 for mix. I don't > know the first thing about creating a table for a CCR but I'd imagine with a > constant Po2 where you can crank it higher for deco, the deco time would be > even less than the 43 minutes I calculated. Isn't one of the big benefits > to using a CCR the ability to have a constant Po2f for deco? > > Although I have never done a dive to 300 foot I would probably have used 3 > gasses so just for ha, ha's I re-ran it using 32, 50/50 and O2. Total dive > time...... 37 minutes. > > When I cranked the conservative for the helium partial pressure up to 15% > and the nitrogen partial pressure up to 5% (the very conservative default > setting of Decom 6.61) I come up with a total run time of 59 minutes using > really deep stops!! Take out the really deep stops Decom calculated > starting at 170 foot and the run time on conservative settings is again 43 > minutes! Built into the 59 minute run time is an ascent rate of 30 foot/min > as well as the 5 minutes of bottom time. Bottom time and ascent rate to > first deep deco stop is about 10 minutes so the total deco time is really > only 49 minutes at a very conservative setting. > > Seriously, what table program would have calculated 60 minutes of deco, let > alone 60 minutes from the 60 foot to the surface.? A serious question, not > a flame.... > > Hope this makes sense cause I'm typing fast! > > Art. > > -----Original Message----- > From: MHK [mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:13 PM > To: Jim Cobb; Tom Mount; FLTechDiver@mikey.net; Tech Diver > Subject: Re: accident > > Tom, > > Does a 5 minute bounce dive to 300' really require 60 minutes additional > deco by the time they got to 60'??? > > Wouldn't knowing gradients and deco curves gone a long way to avoiding the > 60 minutes from 60'??? Furthermore, why not follow him up, help solve the > damn problem and then the both of them get their asses back down and do some > deco?? > > But the real problem that isn't being addressed is why do a 300' dive > without a support team in the first place???? > > Tom, I'm curious to your position with respect to support diver's role in > the instant case.. Is it your position that a support team couldn't have > worked out the problem and then Claudia wouldn't have had to face the > decision to surface??? > > Furthermore, I'm not convinced it was a drysuit problem at all, from what I > can tell it sounds like hypoxia to me and a support diver with proper > bailout bottles solves the problem... > > What are your views????? > > Later > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*> > To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>; "Tech > Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: accident > > > Tom, I've never professed to be a "high powered" diver, you are the one who > puts ads in magazines extolling your "thousands" of dives. I'm just an > average shmo who goes out on an occasional weekend with my buddies. > > On your question of whether I would omit 60 mins of deco, the answer is > "No". This is a pretty stupid question, what is your point? > > What strikes me about this report is that the other diver seemed to have > just sat there and observed while her buddy was having all sorts of > problems. Dealing with a drysuit should be second nature, even to a relative > neophyte like me. There are many ways to get air out of a drysuit, up to and > including cutting it open with your knife. > > It appears that the deceased IANTD instrokter had been abandoned by his > buddy during the dive and on the surface where it would have made much more > sense to do IWR than sit for what must of been a couple of hours waiting for > an ambulance. My ass sure as hell would have been back in the water. > > This whole thing seems fishy to me. How can a super-de-duper IANTD > instrokter not be able to deal with a drysuit issue? Why was his buddy not > able to, either? You emphasise over and over that the rebreathers were > working properly but as anybody can see neither diver was working properly > or were not all together there to begin with. > > Another thing is fishy. why was he breathing all these open circuit bottles > dry on the surface? Why was he not using his rebreather, which would have > given him hours and hours at near 100%. Why did he not go down to 20' with > his buddy for a IWR which would have saved his life? > > If I were the ME on this case I would turn it over to the police. It appears > to me that both rebreathers were malfunctioning and that both divers were > not able to handle a simple buoyancy problem. > > I have a feeling that there are a lot of divers on this list who can see the > disparity going on here and you can quote your nonsensical IANTD mantras all > day long and it won't help. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > > > From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*> > > Reply-To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*> > > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:16:32 -0400 > > To: <cobber@ci*.co*>, <FLTechDiver@mikey.net> > > Subject: Re: accident > > > > As you understand it it is as usual wrong IANTD does not teach abandon > your > > buddy. > > > > In our standards it states > > > > ยท On any occasion a student requires assistance, the instructor and any > dive > > master or dive supervisor will make every reasonable effort to assist or > > rescue the student. The instructor will be expected to continue an assist > or > > rescue attempt until it is either successful or it becomes apparent that > to > > continue will result in unreasonably endangering the rescuers life or > > endanger other students or members of the dive team. > > > > You can take that anyway you wish, > > > > Also Claudia did ascend quite a way with Garrett before letting him go > up.. > > It is highly likely that had she surfaced and worked with him she also > would > > have been in a critical state of DCS . If you read the literature those > who > > experience explosive DCS do not fare well. So it was her logical decision > > not to go all the way to the surface. > > > > I think decisions of this sort have to be made by an individual as there > is > > no way to make a standard as to the risk of death or injury and individual > > must make. It is all due to the situation at he time. > > > > Jim as you are such a high powered diver would you omit one hour of deco > > from the 60 foot stop and go to the surface? a simple yes or no will > suffice > > > > tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> > > To: <cobber@ci*.co*>; <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; > > <FLTechDiver@mikey.net> > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:57 AM > > Subject: Re: accident > > > > > >> Jim & Tom- > >> It appears as if I have been accidentally cc'ed into this thread. Please > >> omit my e-mail address from further e-mail discussion on this topic. > >> Many thanks, > >> Mike > >> > >> > >>> From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> > >>> To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>, Michael Barnette > >>> <aocfishman@ho*.co*>, <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>, Tech Diver > >>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >>> Subject: Re: accident > >>> Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 21:41:13 -0400 > >>> > >>> I am confused about the part when is the best time to abandon your > buddy. > >>> Tom, as I understand it you teach buddy abandonment in IANTD classes, as > > it > >>> is better for one person to die than for both. Personally I think it > > would > >>> be better to teach something more along the lines of its best for nobody > > to > >>> die in the first place, but I know that's totally unrealistic of me. > > After > >>> all this is technical diving and people are supposed to die now and > then. > >>> > >>> Anyway, Did this buddy team do proper prior planning and decided that if > >>> one > >>> or the other drops into a hypoxic delusional state that the buddy then > >>> assumes the other is a gonner and gets the hell out of the way? Or did > > the > >>> situation call for abandonment for drysuit problems stemming from > hypoxia > >>> induced hallucinations? What is the IANTD official abandonment plan for > >>> this > >>> situation with rebreathers or drysuits? Or in this situation with a > known > >>> problematic rebreather and drysuit is the abandonment plan based on a > >>> combination of the two? > >>> > >>> I also notice that the abandonment plan continued on the surface. I > don't > >>> understand why IWR was not practiced even though they had several hours > > to > >>> think the problem over. > >>> > >>> Please discuss the IANDT every man for himself policy and if it's just > > for > >>> underwater or really does extend to the surface. > >>> > >>> Jim > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > >>> > >>>> From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*> > >>>> Reply-To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*> > >>>> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:54:51 -0400 > >>>> To: "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*>, > > <FLTechDiver@mikey.net> > >>>> Subject: accident > >>>> > >>>> Accident Report in Regard to Garrets Death > >>>> This is one of the rare times we have a detailed accident report to > >>> review: > >>>> Saturday June 23, 19:05, Garrett and Claudia started a dive to 300 > > feet > >>> at > >>>> Mukilteo, WA. The dive included a swim of 15 minutes down a gradual > >>> slope to > >>>> the planned 300-foot depth where 5 minutes were spent. The dive was > >>> planned > >>>> with software dive tables. Both knew the dive site very well. > >>>> Both were diving their inspiration units that had passed all pre-dive > >>>> checks. Onboard tanks were full (8/60 and O2), scrubber fresh (see > >>> below). > >>>> Also, they were carrying an Al80 (10/50) and an Al40 (O2) as bailout > >>> each, > >>>> equipped with inflator hoses, gauges, and second stage. > >>>>> From descent to ascent, including the deep stops, everything went > >>> smoothly > >>>> like usual. > >>>> After leaving the 100 ft stop to 60 feet (20 ft/min) Garrett started > > to > >>>> display he was having a problem. > >>>> The Inspiration was functioning correctly and there were no PO2 > >>> problems, > >>>> nor other CCR related problems. The after-market ADV was disengaged as > >>> it > >>>> always was on ascent. No alarms, no malfunctions were taking place. > >>>> Claudia: Starting at 100 feet, he was suddenly behind me, not next to > > me > >>> or > >>>> slightly in front. I looked back and saw him getting rid of occasional > >>> water > >>>> in the breathing hose (normal, although he usually did not do it on > >>> ascent, > >>>> rather at the stop). He seemed to be struggling slightly with > >>> 'something'. > >>>> (When someone had problems of any kind, they would stop and the buddy > >>> would > >>>> stop as well. In this case, although slightly slower, Garrett did not > >>> stop, > >>>> and no other communication indicated a serious problem, yet.) > >>>> Claudia: Then, arrived at the 60 ft stop, the communication was > > strange > >>> to > >>>> non-existent. All I understood, other than that he was getting in more > >>> and > >>>> more distress, was that his dry suit was not as quickly deflated. He > >>> showed > >>>> me that with opening the wrist seal slightly and bubbles coming out. > >>> Because > >>>> of the warm neck hood, it's very hard to open the neck seal that way, > >>> and > >>>> Garrett chose not to. " > >>>> Garrett presented more problems with buoyancy and a look of distress, > >>> and > >>>> surprise. After we had spent some time trying to stop the ascent by > >>>> releasing gas and swimming down - I could not get to the dry suit > >>> inflator > >>>> to detach it (although nothing indicated a runaway inflator) and > > worked > >>> on > >>>> the BC inflator - Garrett stopped kicking and continued to the > > surface. > >>> He > >>>> was just floating up, looking down to me. That look said that he knew > >>> what > >>>> was going to happen, and I did too." > >>>> (The longest deco in my life (60 minutes according to tables), on top > > a > >>>> stomach barotrauma that made breathing very hard.) > >>>> Comment: This is what we actually talked about with Leon yesterday > >>>> afternoon: Gary never really liked his deflator that does not have a > >>> rest > >>>> when fully opened, and together with the undergarment, it seemed > >>> difficult > >>>> to release the Argon in a timely manner. However, I have never seen > > him > >>>> having problems before. > >>>> > >>>> According to a person at the surface that came to help, Garrett went > > to > >>> the > >>>> boat ramp and climbed out of the water. He then collapsed on the boat > >>> ramp, > >>>> and the guy pulled him from the ramp up. > >>>> > >>>> Garrett said something about his dry suit to this person. He had him > >>> call > >>>> 911, told him about his buddy doing deco and to take care of her, and > >>> had > >>>> him help set up everything to breathe O2 until the ambulance would > >>> arrive. > >>>> He breathed oxygen until his onboard O2 was empty, and his stage / > >>> bailout > >>>> O2 to 1700 psi by the time the ambulance arrived to pick him up. > >>>> (Throughout the dive an ordeal. There was no alarm or even 'sanity > >>> break' at > >>>> any time. The scrubber was okay. Mine was new, his had 54 minutes on > >>> prior > >>>> to the dive.) > >>>> (Tom's comment) I think it is important that he made a conscious > >>> decision > >>>> not to descend back to his stop in the water and Garrett was fully > > aware > >>> of > >>>> the problems with an explosive decompression, so it would lead one to > >>> think > >>>> other factors many be involved. He also had adequate OC gas to do a > > deco > >>>> procedure, had OC gas been needed. > >>>> Claudia: We had talked about situations like that before and had he > > been > >>>> able to, he would have resumed his deco after fixing whatever problem > > he > >>>> had. I did not like the idea of leaving him alone when we discussed > > it, > >>> but > >>>> understand that otherwise we both would have been killed, and he never > >>>> wanted that to happen. In a similar situation, knowing that we were > >>> close to > >>>> the boat ramp on a Saturday evening with many people around, I would > >>> have > >>>> expected for him to stay down as well. A hard decision I never wanted > > to > >>>> have to make. > >>>> At the hospital where he also commented about his dry suit and then > > fell > >>>> unconscious after 5 minutes, due to his condition (good ECG at first, > >>> but a > >>>> drop to 40 over 20) he was treated for a heart attack (while explosive > >>> DSC > >>>> is life threatening, it was secondary to the seriousness of the heart > >>> attack > >>>> in the judgment of the attending physicians, and it is difficult if > > not > >>>> impossible to fully address the heart condition while in a chamber) > > for > >>> 5 > >>>> hours prior to being placed in the chamber. 20 minutes into the > > chamber > >>>> treatment Garrett arrested and died. > >>>> Tom: Garrett was a really good friend and his loss saddens me greatly. > >>> He > >>>> had a tremendous amount of time on the inspiration (460 hours plus) > > and > >>> was > >>>> the most active instructor we have had on the west coast. And maybe > > the > >>> most > >>>> active inspiration instructor in the USA. We have shared many dives, > >>> deep > >>>> dives and recently he and Claudia went on a Blue Hole trip with > > several > >>>> others and myself. He was extremely competent and safety orientated. > > In > >>> fact > >>>> during a training program when he was doing his IT and Martin was > > doing > >>> his > >>>> instructors and Vicki her diver rating on the inspiration we hammered > >>> out > >>>> sequencing. On the skills that are now taught in the IANTD Inspiration > >>>> course. So he has contributed very much to our training programs and > > to > >>>> rebreather diving safety overall. > >>>> > >>>> Patti, IANTD and I wish for Garrett the happiest after life possible > > and > >>>> know his energy will always be with those he cared for. > >>>> > >>>>> From everything from observations to the medical reaction and > > diagnosis > >>> at > >>>> he hospital it would have lead one to accept that Garrett had a heart > >>>> attack. > >>>> > >>>> True without the complication of an explosive decompression he may > > have > >>> had > >>>> a higher probability of surviving. > >>>> > >>>> BUT after his body was reviewed by the ME the following was found > >>>> > >>>> Claudia: According to the examiner, no enzymes could be built within > > the > >>>> time frame of 5-6 'alive' hours that would let trace a heart attack, > > and > >>>> they were not found. The final report may be shared with me in about > > 6-8 > >>>> weeks. This morning, two friends of ours, and students of Garrett's, > > Ken > >>>> Rymal and Dave Hancock, and I were explaining the gear to the > > examiners > >>> to > >>>> shed some light for them on the subject. We tested the unit in front > > of > >>>> them, and everything worked properly. > >>>> > >>>> Garrett and I were to get married 5 July, and had many good plans for > >>>> training and service, and just going diving all over the place. After > >>>> talking to Leon that afternoon, we produced even more ideas while > >>> driving > >>>> from the lunch place up North to Mukilteo. Except for the harsh and > >>> unfair > >>>> end, it was one of, of not the happiest weekend we had ever spent. > >>>> > >>>> Tom: questions that remain: > >>>> 1. What caused Garret to make the decision not to solve the problem in > >>> water > >>>> (maybe due to physiological stress if fact he was having a physical > >>> problem > >>>> as thought by the doctors ) > >>>> 2. Why once on the surface he elected not to return to the stops after > >>>> dealing with any other problems (again suggesting there was something > >>> else > >>>> taking place) > >>>> 3. Why was he not put in the chamber earlier, (as stated by the > >>> attending > >>>> Doctor a heart attack but according to the ME no evidence of a heart > >>> attack > >>>> > >>>> So we may or may not discover the answers to these as well as what if > >>> any > >>>> role a problem with the dry suit may or may not have had on this > >>> accident. > >>>> > >>>> We do know it was not CCR related. And it appears that there was a > >>>> physiological problem taking place that influenced Garrett to allow > >>> himself > >>>> to go to the surface and to elect not to return to decompression. > >>>> It is sad that he was not placed in the chamber immediately as that > >>> would > >>>> have definitely increased the probability of his survival of the > >>>> decompression issue. But the attending doctors (s) had to make a > >>> decision > >>>> based on what they perceived to be most life threatening. > >>>> > >>>> So we are still left with many questions > >>>> > >>>> We do know Garrett was extremely competent as a diver and highly > >>> experienced > >>>> on the inspiration > >>>> > >>>> Respectfully > >>>> Claudia Milz and Tom Mount > >>>>> From Leon Scamahorn > >>>> I am at a loss. Garrett, Claudia, and I had just finished having > > lunch > >>> and > >>>> talking about the Meg. I was looking forward to working with Garrett > > and > >>>> diving with him and Claudia. > >>>> > >>>> I wish everyone to know that I believe Garrett was a fine instructor > > and > >>>> probably the best one and diver in the country on the Inspiration. I > >>> will > >>>> feel his loss, and I think that we all will feel his loss in the > > diving > >>>> industry. He has been a positive influence to all those that > > understood > >>> him. > >>>> > >>>> Claudia, you have my best wishes. > >>>> > >>>> Sincerely, > >>>> Leon Scamahorn > >>>> CEO Innerspace Systems Corp. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> > >>>> To: <FLTechDiver@mikey.net> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:04 PM > >>>> Subject: Update on Florida job announcement > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I thought this might be of interest to the list... > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Mike > >>>>> Association of Underwater Explorers > >>>>> http://www.mikey.net/aue > >>>>> > >>>>>> Important Update on Underwater Archaeology Employment Opportunity > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Florida Department of State position for an Archaeological Field > >>>>>> Supervisor within the Bureau of Archaeological Research that was > >>>> advertised > >>>>>> on 5/30/01 has been changed to Archaeological Field Assistant. 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