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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:30:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
Subject: Re: Re: Long Hose Stuffing VS Hogarthian(Sp?)
To: Matthias Voss <mat.voss@t-*.de*>, Dogtrner1@ao*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Matthias, Non of the silly hose stuffers do real s-drills. It's funny like hell
to sit and watch them try and justify an s-drill without actually pulling out
all two meter of hose! Gee Wiz...These buffoons probably are better off solo
diving. The Dog Trainer Karla has probably learned to Hogarth from these same
buffoons.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Matthias Voss"<mat.voss@t-*.de*>
To: Dogtrner1@ao*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Sun Jun 24 23:33:54 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: Long Hose Stuffing VS Hogarthian(Sp?)

>I remember an accident wich resulted in a severe case of DCS because of
>a stuffed hose. The regs flush function was actuated by an inflating
>Wing bladder, the gas loss was noticed to late.  the diver could not
>inflate further and dropped to 90m before he was able to switch to his
>secondary, only after donning of his rig partially, then he dumbly
>depreesed his power inflator, and shot himself to the surface, could not
>reach his release, rig floating above him , dragging him up....
>
>Only one danger of stuffing.
>others : coming offstuffed unnoticed, once off, difficult to restuff.
>
>If hog hose nags you, why don't you drop down head first ?
>Matthias
>
>Dogtrner1@ao*.co* schrieb:
>> 
>> In a message dated 6/24/2001 5:48:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dogtrner1
>> writes:
>> 
>> << Ok, about 2 months ago, I switched from stuffing to hog.  However,
I hate
>> it.
>> 
>>  When I was young, I had an ex-boyfriend try to stangle me----not that that
>> means alot, except for the fact that I hate things around my neck.....care to
>> guess why????VBG
>> 
>>  Anyway, I have a 7 ft. hose(I am a big girl).  I am finding two problems:
>> 
>>  1) The reg and section of hose going around my neck, often tighten up.
>> Drives me crazy.
>> 
>>  2) If I am "bombing" a wreck, or going down quickly, the hose simply drifts
>> off my neck and is gone and dangling.
>> 
>>  NOW:  Some of you may feel the need to slam me, but I really don't give a
>> shit.  However, after having tried it---by the way in two months time, I have
>> made at least 50 dives---Some recreational, but about 10 Tech, to depths over
>> 130ft.--I am probably going to go back to stuffing.
>> 
>>  I may still use my octo as my reg, and keep my primary aroung my neck on a
>> bungie, and use it in case of an emergancy.  That bungie doesnt' seem to
>> bother me, btw....maybe because it doesn't ride up, or tighten up.
>> 
>>  SO, my question is:  Other than the fact that DIR doesn't like it, what is
>> legitamately wrong with stuffing your hose?
>> 
>>  REMEMBER:  I want a smart, technical answer, not just that DIR doesnt' like
>> it.
>> 
>>  Karla Clinch
>>  Dog Training By Karla
>>  Ft. Lauderdale, FL >>
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