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From: "George Irvine" <George-Irvine@em*.ne*>
To: "pina" <pina3@be*.ne*>, "Brad, Jen, and Sam" <bjs539@ho*.co*>
Cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: don't be silly....was....RE: Advice on NACD?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 04:42:13 -0400
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The only thing you need for an NACD course is a checkbook and two days. =
It is a joke. The "instructors" do not themselves do any real diving , =
whereas the GUE guys do, and the majority of them are going to run you =
through bullshit dives as fast as they can so they can get on back to =
the trailer for Miller Time.=20

The one thing you can get from the NACD is a card, no matter how much of =
a clusterfuck you are, so if you can not pass the walk and chew gum =
test, go to the NACD. If you are a real basket case, go to the CDS.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: pina=20
  To: Brad, Jen, and Sam=20
  Cc: Techdiver=20
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:29 PM
  Subject: don't be silly....was....RE: Advice on NACD?


  That is silly. =20
  =20
  Here is the link to the GUE Cave 1 course:
  http://www.gue.com/classroom/standards/gue_cave1_student.pdf
  =20
  You do not need any prior cave/cavern training for this course, and if =
you have had any they will just have to un-train all the bad habits you =
have developed, and straighten the bad gear advice you received from =
other instructors.
  =20
  Just get the proper training the first time.=20
  =20
  --pina
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Brad, Jen, and Sam [mailto:bjs539@ho*.co*]
    Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:13 PM
    To: Techdiver List
    Subject: Advice on NACD?


    Hello all-
    I am wanting to learn the right way to do cave dives. This is =
obviously going to be GUE, but I don't think I am ready for GUE yet, as =
I have no other cave/cavern training. I have been thinking about doing =
the NACD courses to help prepare me for the GUE courses, but wanted to =
get the general concensus as to how well put together the NACD course =
really is. Thanks in advance for any advice I can get!!

    Brad

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>The only thing you need for an NACD course is a =
checkbook and=20
two days. It is a joke. The "instructors" do not themselves do any real =
diving ,=20
whereas the GUE guys do, and the majority of them are going to run you =
through=20
bullshit dives as fast as they can so they can get on back to the =
trailer for=20
Miller Time. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>The one thing you can get from the NACD is a card, =
no matter=20
how much of a clusterfuck you are, so if you can not pass the walk and =
chew gum=20
test, go to the NACD. If you are a real basket case, go to the =
CDS.</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:pina3@be*.ne*" =
title=3Dpina3@be*.ne*>pina</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:bjs539@ho*.co*"=20
  title=3Dbjs539@ho*.co*>Brad, Jen, and Sam</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>Techdiver</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 16, 2001
=
10:29=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> don't be =
silly....was....RE:=20
  Advice on NACD?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN
class=3D678142402-17062001>That =
is=20
  silly.  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
  class=3D678142402-17062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN
class=3D678142402-17062001>Here =
is the link=20
  to the GUE Cave 1 course:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN
class=3D678142402-17062001><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.gue.com/classroom/standards/gue_cave1_student.pdf">htt=
p://www.gue.com/classroom/standards/gue_cave1_student.pdf</A></SPAN></F
ON=
T></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
  class=3D678142402-17062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN
class=3D678142402-17062001>You =
do not need=20
  any prior cave/cavern training for this course, and if you have had =
any they=20
  will just have to un-train all the bad habits you have developed, and=20
  straighten the bad gear advice you received from other=20
  instructors.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
  class=3D678142402-17062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN
class=3D678142402-17062001>Just =
get the=20
  proper training the first time. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
  class=3D678142402-17062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
  class=3D678142402-17062001>--pina</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brad, Jen, and
=
Sam=20
    [mailto:bjs539@ho*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 16, 2001 =
9:13=20
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> Techdiver List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Advice
on=20
    NACD?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all-</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am wanting to learn the right way =
to do cave=20
    dives. This is obviously going to be GUE, but I don't think I am =
ready for=20
    GUE yet, as I have no other cave/cavern training. I have been =
thinking about=20
    doing the NACD courses to help prepare me for the GUE courses, but =
wanted to=20
    get the general concensus as to how well put together the NACD =
course really=20
    is. Thanks in advance for any advice I can get!!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
   
<DIV>Brad</DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BOD
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