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Terry, you are talking to an obvious moron here. This is the kind of stroke that should never be allowed to teach diving. Cold is as bad as narcosis, and will lead to the same kind of thinking underwater that this idiot displays on here. The instructor above all should wear a drysuit, since he is the one who is going to be making the decisions. You hit the nail on the head with the rock quarry death toll. I just can not believe people are still this stupid. 20 years of diving? 20 years of being a complete moron, and willing to prove it in writing. This is one seriously dangerous idiot you found here. One guess which agency this guy teaches for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*> To: "Bob Hines" <bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] > Bob, how many students they loose down at the QUARRY(s) on average per year? The 7ml wetsuit is where it starts in my opinion. It's the compromise that you guys dish out!!! The bullshit is horrendous and all in the name of open water! Bob, do your students have an SMB on them, do they know how to use it? What about a personal dive timing device or knife? Very likely they don't Bob at least that's been my observation. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Bob Hines"<bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*> > To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> > Date: Wed Jun 13 05:39:08 PDT 2001 > Subject: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] > > >HI Terry: > > > >Thanks for the come back. Very few people in the Great Lakes area wear Dry > >suits, unless they are doing Ice diving or extended deeper diving in the cold > >water. You get used to the cold after about 20 years of it. > > > >ALTHOUGH I DID SEE ONE INSTRUCTOR AT A QUARRY LAST WEEKEND WEARING A DRY SUIT, > >DOUBLE 100 NITROX TANKS, 300 FT. REEL AND ALL THE OTHER ITEMS HIS CREDIT CARD > >COULD AFFORD. HE AND HIS ASSISTANT (DRESSED THE SAME WAY) WERE DOING AN OPEN > >WATER CLASS. I wander what his students thought. > >I wear what the students are wearing. That way I feel what they feel. I don't > >understand the mentality of going dry, so that you are comfortable, while your > >students might be freezing their asses off. Do you teach or just dive in a > >dry suit? You didn't answer my question. What is the water temp. there. We > >only dropped to 44 ft. to see what the temp. was. Didn't stay there long > >obviously. The temp was 64 deg. at 20 ft. for the Open Water students > >skills. > > > >terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> wrote: > >Bob, It is a big deal, particularly if you are doing this in front of an > >instructor candidate why would you want to use a 7 mm neoprene wetsuit for > >diving with at 44 ft in 39degF water and then try to justify it? I just don't > >get it. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: "Bob Hines"<bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*> > >To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> > >Date: Tue Jun 12 06:55:33 PDT 2001 > >Subject: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal] > > > >>What is the avg. temp. at depth there? Maybe he isn't a wimp who needs a > >dry > >>suit to keep his skinny ass warm. We regularly dive cold water in our > >region. > >> SOme dry & some wet. Last week it was 39deg. at 44 ft on training dive > >with > >>an instructor candidate. NO big deal. 7 mm keeps warm. > >> > >>Bob > >> > >>terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> wrote: > >>Fine for what? This is all drysuit diving as far south as you care to go in > >>Cali. The only reason to dive wet in this region, in my opinion, is because > >>you have no dry suit so have to compromise. > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: "Jack Farmer"<jack@ma*.th*.co*> > >>To: EanxMiss@ao*.co* > >>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >>Date: Sat Jun 09 18:12:02 PDT 2001 > >>Subject: Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal > >> > >>>Just got back last week from a trip there. Wore a 6 mil farmer john with > >hoot > >>on > >>>1 dive and 5 mil full suit with hood other dives. 5 mil is fine. > >>> > >>>L8R > >>> > >>> > >>>EanxMiss@ao*.co* wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hey gang-going out next weekend and wondered if any persons on this list > >>have > >>>> dived recently in SoCal, specifically Santa Barbara and could give me an > >>idea > >>>> for what type of thermal protection I should use. It is awfully hot here > >>in > >>>> Pasadena but I freeze my "bondage wings" below 65 degrees. Any opinions > >>would > >>>> be helpful! > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> Leslie > >>>> -- > >>>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'... > >>>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >>> > >>>-- > >>>You Don't HAVE to be NUTS to be a SysAdmin./WebMaster. 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