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Bob, how many students they loose down at the QUARRY(s) on average per year= ? The 7ml wetsuit is where it starts in my opinion. It's the compromise tha= t you guys dish out!!! The bullshit is horrendous and all in the name of op= en water! Bob, do your students have an SMB on them, do they know how to us= e it? What about a personal dive timing device or knife? Very likely they d= on't Bob at least that=92s been my observation. =20 -----Original Message----- From: "Bob Hines"<bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*> To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> Date: Wed Jun 13 05:39:08 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] >HI Terry: >=20 >Thanks for the come back. Very few people in the Great Lakes area wear Dr= y >suits, unless they are doing Ice diving or extended deeper diving in the c= old >water. You get used to the cold after about 20 years of it. > >ALTHOUGH I DID SEE ONE INSTRUCTOR AT A QUARRY LAST WEEKEND WEARING A DRY S= UIT, >DOUBLE 100 NITROX TANKS, 300 FT. REEL AND ALL THE OTHER ITEMS HIS CREDIT C= ARD >COULD AFFORD. HE AND HIS ASSISTANT (DRESSED THE SAME WAY) WERE DOING AN O= PEN >WATER CLASS. I wander what his students thought. >I wear what the students are wearing. That way I feel what they feel. I d= on't >understand the mentality of going dry, so that you are comfortable, while = your >students might be freezing their asses off. Do you teach or just dive in = a >dry suit? You didn't answer my question. What is the water temp. there. = We >only dropped to 44 ft. to see what the temp. was. Didn't stay there long >obviously. The temp was 64 deg. at 20 ft. for the Open Water students >skills. > >terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> wrote: >Bob, It is a big deal, particularly if you are doing this in front of an >instructor candidate why would you want to use a 7 mm neoprene wetsuit for >diving with at 44 ft in 39degF water and then try to justify it? I just do= n't >get it. > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Bob Hines"<bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*> >To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> >Date: Tue Jun 12 06:55:33 PDT 2001 >Subject: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal] > >>What is the avg. temp. at depth there? Maybe he isn't a wimp who needs a >dry >>suit to keep his skinny ass warm. We regularly dive cold water in our >region. >> SOme dry & some wet. Last week it was 39deg. at 44 ft on training dive >with >>an instructor candidate. NO big deal. 7 mm keeps warm. >> >>Bob >> >>terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> wrote: >>Fine for what? This is all drysuit diving as far south as you care to go = in >>Cali. The only reason to dive wet in this region, in my opinion, is becau= se >>you have no dry suit so have to compromise. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: "Jack Farmer"<jack@ma*.th*.co*> >>To: EanxMiss@ao*.co* >>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >>Date: Sat Jun 09 18:12:02 PDT 2001 >>Subject: Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal >> >>>Just got back last week from a trip there. Wore a 6 mil farmer john with >hoot >>on >>>1 dive and 5 mil full suit with hood other dives. 5 mil is fine. >>> >>>L8R >>> >>> >>>EanxMiss@ao*.co* wrote: >>> >>>> Hey gang-going out next weekend and wondered if any persons on this li= st >>have >>>> dived recently in SoCal, specifically Santa Barbara and could give me = an >>idea >>>> for what type of thermal protection I should use. It is awfully hot he= re >>in >>>> Pasadena but I freeze my "bondage wings" below 65 degrees. Any opinion= s >>would >>>> be helpful! >>>> Thanks. >>>> Leslie >>>> -- >>>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'= .. >>>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com= '. >>> >>>-- >>>You Don't HAVE to be NUTS to be a SysAdmin./WebMaster. 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