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You saw me on the boat on the first trip that the Wahoo tried to make to the San Diego but we got blown out. Don't tell me all the nitrogen is making you forgetful...lol I was also on the boat a couple of weeks ago when you were not! I don't dive the tower anymore cause I've got about a dozen dives on it already and I find the San Diego and the Oregon a lot more interesting! I've done the tower on both air (years ago) as well as mix (more recently) and it still wasn't that interesting. I was also out this past Tuesday, where were you? :) Art. -----Original Message----- From: Maggie Owens [mailto:mmowens@pa*.co*] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:39 PM To: Paltz, Art Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: NY DCS hit So why haven't I seen you on the boat yet this year? Come on, it was 38 degrees on the Tower on Friday. On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* wrote: > Who says you can't dive year round? Just a little colder, that's all..... > Not too bad, just gets down to about 36-38 on the bottom. Anyone with > proper gear should have no problem diving year round. > > Art. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MHK [mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:26 PM > To: Jim Cobb; Tech Diver > Subject: Re: NY DCS hit > > Cobb,, > > Part of the problem is that they still believe Maffatone was a pioneer.. > When you have guys worshipping idiots that do stupid things what do you > expect??? > > Could you imagine how many fatalities they would have back there if the > season was 12 months a year??? It's a good thing they can't dive year > round.. > > Later > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*> > To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; "Tech Diver" > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:19 PM > Subject: Re: NY DCS hit > > > > Well, the story gets better and better. Further news states that this > idiot > > *was* diving independent doubles and his problem was with his OMS > > stuporwings. the knucklehead lost track of which bladder he had inflated. > > > > So here we have a guy who has to worry about what air he has in his > drysuit, > > what air he has in which bungee wing bladder, what air he has in which > tank > > in his back gas, what air he has in his deco bottles, etc. etc. etc. > > > > Is this supposed to be fun? When will you knuckleheads out there get the > > picture? When will the lightbulb come on? Is this sheer stupidity or some > > other bizarre manifestation which only psychoanalysis will be able to > figure > > out? > > > > Steve and Janet, why do you folks condone this shit? To what advantage > would > > it have been to you North East Dive Boat association to loose yet another > > mate? Why do you guys, respected members of the community up there, > promote > > this crap? > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > > > > > From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> > > > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:07:05 -0400 > > > To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > Subject: NY DCS hit > > > > > > Interesting story. As I recall this is the fellow who was particularly > > > quarrelsome and pathetically stupid during last year's Wahoo wars on > Tech > > > Diver. > > > > > > This story seems to indicate that either he was breathing from > independent > > > doubles or doing that thing what nobody ever claims that they do, using > a > > > pony to extend his bottom time. > > > > > > I'm sorry, but Janet and Steve, for how much longer are you going to let > > > this stupid stroke stuff go on up there? I am really wondering if doing > all > > > that deep air has effected your brains like it has Tom Mount's. > > > > > > Clusterfucks like this do in two or three or more NE divers a year yet > > > nobody seems to care. Is this a macho thing? Your normal excuse is that > you > > > cannot "tell customers how to dive" but this guy was a mate, a paid crew > > > member and certainly you have say over what gear he uses. When will you > > > people wake up? > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > > > > > >> From: "Al Wells" <fossildiver@mi*.co*> > > >> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:10:23 -0400 > > >> To: <FlTechDiver@mikey.net> > > >> Subject: NY DCS hit > > >> > > >> http://www.newsday.com/coverage/current/news/tuesday/nd3990.htm > > >> > > >> Oxygen Chamber Saves Scuba Diver > > >> by Katie Thomas > > >> Staff Writer > > >> > > >> A Connecticut man suffered a nearly fatal diving accident 60 miles out > to > > >> sea when his suit took on too much air and he sped to the surface > Friday > > >> without allowing his body to properly decompress. > > >> > > >> The incident came at the end of what had been a fairly smooth dive > around > > >> the Texas Tower, a toppled radar station, said the diver, Mark Shannon, > of > > >> Fairfield, Conn. An experienced diver and crew member for the Wahoo, a > dive > > >> boat based at the Captree Boat Basin, Shannon was about to begin his > ascent > > >> from 140 feet in the Atlantic Ocean when he swallowed a mouthful of > water > > >> while switching from one air regulator to another. > > >> > > >> After several moments spent bringing his breathing under control, > Shannon > > >> began to head for the anchor line that would lead him to the surface. > His > > >> diving partner, crew member Nick Ricciardelli, had already begun > untying the > > >> line, so Shannon decided to try to make it to the anchor line before > fixing > > >> his suit, which had too much air. > > >> > > >> "I started to drift upward, and then I got farther and farther out of > > >> control," said Shannon, 40, who has dived perhaps 700 times since 1989 > and > > >> is a lieutenant in the Stamford, Conn., fire department. "Then I was > flying > > >> to the surface." Shannon considers himself a lucky man. Often such > > >> "uncontrolled ascents" can be fatal. Air trapped in divers' lungs > expands as > > >> it reaches the surface and can rupture their lungs if they don't > exhale, as > > >> Shannon did. An air bubble could have become trapped in his blood and > > >> reached his brain, causing stroke-like symptoms or death. > > >> > > >> "This guy was very lucky," said Shannon's doctor, Kenneth Hirsh, of the > John > > >> T. Mather Memorial Hospital in Port Jefferson. "He was very fortunate > that > > >> he doesn't seem to have long-term problems." Instead, Shannon got a > severe > > >> case of what is known as "the bends," or decompression sickness, which > > >> happens when divers ascend too quickly and the nitrogen that has > dissolved > > >> into their tissue and blood while deep underwater turns into gas > bubbles > > >> that block blood flow and can impede the nervous system. > > >> > > >> Crew members immediately fished Shannon from the water and began giving > him > > >> oxygen. Shooting pains stabbed his back, legs and nearly all of his > joints. > > >> > > >> Captain Janet Bieser radioed the Coast Guard, and within an hour he was > on > > >> his way to Mather and the hospital's hyperbaric oxygen chamber, which > allows > > >> the nitrogen to slowly dissolve. > > >> > > >> He spent eight hours in the chamber Friday and has received several > two-hour > > >> treatments over the past several days. Doctors say he is expected to > fully > > >> recover. > > >> > > >> Shannon's wife, Robin, learned of the accident Friday afternoon after > > >> returning from errands with her daughter, Rachel, 3. > > >> > > >> "It's the kind of phone call you hope you never get," said Robin, who > also > > >> is an avid diver. > > >> > > >> Wahoo owner Steve Bielenda called Shannon an experienced diver and said > the > > >> accident could have happened to anyone. "This is one of those domino > effect > > >> type of things. One thing goes wrong, you pay attention to it, then > > >> something else goes wrong," he said. His boat conducts about 5,000 > dives a > > >> year. Bielenda said Long Island sees three to seven such accidents > every > > >> year. Eleven passengers and five crew members made the trip aboard the > Wahoo > > >> on Friday. > > >> > > >> Despite his ordeal, Shannon hasn't sworn off diving. If doctors permit > it, > > >> he'll dive again. But "I don't know if I'll ever go that deep again," > he > > >> said. > > >> > > >> Decompressing How patients are treated for the "bends" The increased > > >> pressure of the chamber helps decrease the size of nitrogen bubbles in > a > > >> patient who has decompression illness or the "bends," a painful and > > >> dangerous condition usually associated with diving and caused by gas > bubbles > > >> in the bloodstream and body tissues. The chamber helps reduce the > bubbles so > > >> they can be reabsorbed into the bloodstream. > > >> > > >> 100 percent oxygen is pumped into the chamber at high pressure for the > > >> patient to breatehr. This is a high-pressure or "hyperbaric" dose of > oxygen. > > >> > > >> > > >> During the course of treatment, whihc varies, the patient is given air > > >> breaks of 21 percent oxygen. > > >> > > >> In a pressurized chamber, the body is able to absorb two to three times > more > > >> pure oxygen thatn if there were no increase in pressure. > > >> > > >> SOURCE: Kathy McGonigle, R.N.; John T. Mather Memorial Hospital; World > Book > > >> Encyclopedia; Sechrist. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ============================================================ > > >> To contact the list administrator, email > > >> Mike Rodriguez at mikey@mi*.ne* > > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a message to: > > >> listserv@mi*.ne* > > >> and in the *BODY* of the message type: > > >> unsubscribe FLTechDiver > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > Maggie Owens; http://www.maggieowens.com finger for geek code -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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