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From: <RLucas1013@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:25:19 EDT
Subject: Surface Markers
To: OEA51@go*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Terry, A few weeks ago I went to a dive festival here in south, FL, which ha=
d=20
a whole array of dealers and manufactures selling dive equipment. I spoke to=
=20
the rep for EE who also distributes Halcyon equipment. I asked about the=20
deployment of the Halcyon sealed lift bag and explained my concern when=20
diving wet, he suggested using a dedicated L.P hose to fill the bag, but wha=
t=20
is interesting is that the Halcyon catalog also makes reference to a=20
dedicated L.P hose! I really look forward to new equipment and ideas,=20
unfortunately, you can't get a straight answer form the people who make and=20
distribute dive equipment. I hate to say it but G.I. is the only one with=20
enough tenacity and balls to carry this message, and has brought to light=20
what most of us don't have the time, energy or concern to voice. From my=20
experience I would say 90% of what manufactures sales reps, dive shop=20
monkeys, and marketing people speak is rhetoric, and have no clue as to the=20
function and practical use of the equipment they are selling. IMHO this list=
=20
is the only place to get up front in your face info.
Later
BOB     =20



In a message dated 6/5/01 10:29:04 PM EST, OEA51@go*.co* writes:

>=20
>  Bob,
>  Your absolutely right in my opinion there should be a cluster f*ck warnin=
g=20
> on these. The thing that gets me is an instructor trying to make a buck by=
=20
> pushing this crap to students for the commission $$$ then even teaching=20
them=20
> how to use them. But then again maybe these dimwits that just don=E2=80=
=99t know=20
> better. NOT IN THE MID-WATER!  These things are up there with Bungie wings=
=20
> and trimix computers and should only be used for lifting ONLY (after being=
=20
> secured, you dip-sh*ts!). It=E2=80=99s obvious in my opinion that many ind=
ividuals=20
on=20
> this list are just winging it and just don=E2=80=99t have enough common si=
nce to=20
STAY=20
> OUT OF A CLUSTER F*CK!=20
> =20
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: RLucas1013@ao*.co*
>  To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>  Date: Mon Jun 04 08:08:19 PDT 2001
>  Subject: Surface Markers
> =20
>  > a message dated 6/4/01 6:22:24 AM EST, pbnorris@bi*.co* writes:
>  >
>  >>=20
>  >>  Get a Halcyon. I've tried the Carter and either the flapper valve in=20
the
>  >> bottom sticks, or the seams leak/burst. I got a Halcyon Super Marker=20
> which
>  >> inflates off your BC hose (but has no swedge balls, so it detaches as=20
> soon
>  >>  as you let go). It inflates slower thank the Carter but not having a=20
> risk=20
>  >of
>  >>  entanglement with a second stage used as an inflator and giving you a=
n
>  >>  unplanned ride to the surface well worth the tradeoff.
>  >> =20
>  >> =20
>  >>  Patrick
>  >> =20
>  >>  ----- Original Message -----
>  >> Hi Pat, I had a halcyon bag the party balloon design type and brought=20
it=20
>  >back because of a defective spring. The bag kept on floating down on me=20
>  >because spring tension would not keep the seat on the dump valve closed.=
=20
> The=20
>  >people at Brownies said it was the company that supplies the springs and=
=20
>  >returned my money.  I think they corrected the problem, but over=20
> compensated=20
>  >for the tension on the new spring, read what happened to the AUE guys.=20
Also=20
> I=20
>  >don't dive with a dry suit and don't like the idea of disconnecting the=20
>  >inflater hose while diving in a wet suit in deep open water or having to=
=20
>  >dedicate a low pressure hose to fill the bag. The cluster fuck starts al=
l=20
>  >over.
>  >
>  >Later BOB
>  >--
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