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From: "Walter Jaccard" <wjaccard@mi*.co*>
To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     "Capt JT"
Subject: Re: Surface Markers
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:10:06 -0700
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Seems to work pretty well in the Northwest, too.  You Northeast guys =
just have to be different.

Walter

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Capt JT=20
  To: Trey ; techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:51 AM
  Subject: RE: Surface Markers


  Yes, you are correct. Down there it is very unwise and unsafe to dive =
like we do up here, the current will always win. To free drop and deco =
as a drifting group is the correct way down there.=20


  At 05:59 AM 6/6/01 -0400, Trey wrote:

    Most of these currents do not extend down very far below the =
surface. The Gulf Stream, which is a lot faster than anything found in =
NE wreck diving, extends down 150 feet at best before it is still. =
Sometimes it will sweep lower.  The very top can move nearly 4 knots, by =
70 feet it is a lot slower, and deeper it is barely perceptible.
        -----Original Message-----=20
        From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]=20
        Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:43 PM=20
        To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
        Subject: Re: Surface Markers


          Do a free ascent until you hit 70'.  It's not that tough.
        If the boat is tied into the wreck it is a problem, very seldom =
do we have current strong enough to keep us from tieing into the wrecks, =
but some current is always there, to free ascent means you will drift =
away during deco, if the dive boat does not have a chase boat YOU ARE =
FUCKED, the boat will not leave other divers in the water that did =
nothing wrong to go save one dumb ass. If the liftbag has a problem with =
depth, get a different lift bag.=20


          ss
            ----- Original Message -----=20
            From: NyWrecker@ao*.co*=20
            To: se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca* ; =
joe@po*.co* ; gert.je@wo*.nl* ; techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
            Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:15 AM=20
            Subject: Re: Surface Markers


            In a message dated 6/3/2001 6:46:22 PM Central Daylight =
Time,=20
            se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca* writes:=20




              If one takes a GUE course, he or she would know that GUE =
advocates deploying=20
              the lift bag once you arrive at 70', not at 275'.  I'm =
unaware of problems=20
              when one deploys the bag properly.=20



            Ok i see why it would be a problem shooting one from depth =
due to the air=20
            expanding.In a course i took that was'nt GUE- may have been =
wreck,we were=20
            told in an emergency shoot the bag,, tie it off and assend =
on it.And yes it=20
            was a Jersey reel too but thats un-important now.What do you =
do if your at=20
            depth then???Say between 100' and 200. Im ready :-)=20
                             Ed=20
                           =20
        "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to =
get in the water"=20
        Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more=20
         Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/=20
        Email     captjt@mi*.co*=20

    "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get =
in the water"
    Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more=20
     Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
    Email     captjt@mi*.co*



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Seems to work pretty well in the Northwest, =
too.  You=20
Northeast guys just have to be different.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Walter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*" =
title=3Dcaptjt@mi*.co*>Capt JT</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*"=20
  title=3Dtrey@ne*.co*>Trey</A> ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 06,
2001 =
5:51=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Surface =
Markers</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Yes, you are correct. Down there it is very unwise
and =
unsafe=20
  to dive like we do up here, the current will always win. To free drop =
and deco=20
  as a drifting group is the correct way down there. <BR><BR><BR>At =
05:59 AM=20
  6/6/01 -0400, Trey wrote:<BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial =
size=3D4>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">Most of these currents do not extend =
down very=20
    far below the surface. The Gulf Stream, which is a lot faster than =
anything=20
    found in NE wreck diving, extends down 150 feet at best before it is =
still.=20
    Sometimes it will sweep lower.  The very top can move nearly 4 =
knots,=20
    by 70 feet it is a lot slower, and deeper it is barely =
perceptible.</FONT>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2>
      <DL>
        <DD>-----Original Message-----=20
        <DD>From:</B> Capt JT [<A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*"=20
        eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:captjt@mi*.co*</A>]=20
        <DD>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:43 PM=20
        <DD>To:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
        <DD>Subject:</B> Re: Surface Markers<BR><BR></FONT>
        <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial>
          <DD>Do a free ascent until you hit 70'.  It's not that=20
          tough.</FONT></DD></BLOCKQUOTE>
        <DD>If the boat is tied into the wreck it is a problem, very =
seldom do=20
        we have current strong enough to keep us from tieing into the =
wrecks,=20
        but some current is always there, to free ascent means you will =
drift=20
        away during deco, if the dive boat does not have a chase boat =
YOU ARE=20
        FUCKED, the boat will not leave other divers in the water that =
did=20
        nothing wrong to go save one dumb ass. If the liftbag has a =
problem with=20
        depth, get a different lift bag. <BR><BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial>
          <DD>ss</FONT>
          <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">
            <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
            <DD>From:</B> <A=20
            href=3D"mailto:NyWrecker@ao*.co*">NyWrecker@aol.com</A>=20
            <DD>To:</B> <A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*">se2schul@student.math.=
uwaterloo.ca</A>=20
            ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A> ;=20
            <A href=3D"mailto:gert.je@wo*.nl*">gert.je@wolmail.nl</A> =
; <A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>=20
            <DD>Sent:</B> Monday, June 04, 2001 8:15 AM=20
            <DD>Subject:</B> Re: Surface Markers<BR><BR><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
            <DD>In a message dated 6/3/2001 6:46:22 PM Central Daylight =
Time,=20
            <DD><A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*">se2schul@student.math.=
uwaterloo.ca</A>=20
            writes: <BR><BR><BR><BR>
            <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">
              <DD>If one takes a GUE course, he or she would know that =
GUE=20
              advocates deploying=20
              <DD>the lift bag once you arrive at 70', not at =
275'.  I'm=20
              unaware of problems=20
              <DD>when one deploys the bag properly. =
</DD></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>
            <DD>Ok i see why it would be a problem shooting one from =
depth due=20
            to the air=20
            <DD>expanding.In a course i took that was'nt GUE- may have =
been=20
            wreck,we were=20
            <DD>told in an emergency shoot the bag,, tie it off and =
assend on=20
            it.And yes it=20
            <DD>was a Jersey reel too but thats un-important now.What do =
you do=20
            if your at=20
            <DD>depth then???Say between 100' and 200. Im ready :-)=20
            =
<DD>           &nb=
sp;    =20
            Ed=20
            =
<DD>           &nb=
sp;   =20
            </FONT></B></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></BLOCKQUOTE>
        <DD>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you =
have to get=20
        in the water"<FONT color=3D#0000ff>=20
        <DD>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & =
more=20
        <DD> Web Site  <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
        eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</A>=20
        <DD>Email     captjt@mi*.co*</FONT>=20
      </DD></DL></U></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>"You can't learn to dive on
the =
net, sooner=20
    or later you have to get in the water"<BR><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><U>Your Guide=20
    to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more <BR> Web=20
    Site  <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
    =
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</A><BR>Email   =
 =20
    =
captjt@mi*.co*<BR><BR></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><
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