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From: "Don Burke" <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
To: "Lyle Rode" <lrode@ki*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: DIR Gear Help
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:39:00 -0400
From: Lyle Rode <lrode@ki*.co*>

>I have been looking at both Halcyon and Dive Rite gear and I am having
trouble deciding between the two.

I found a some people who switched from the DiveRite plate to Halcyon.
I have yet to find the first who switched the other way.

> I think that the Halcyon setup is a
better configuration with a few more options however the wings only
allow for single or double tanks not both.

Eleven inch hole spacing on both means either will fit singles or doubles.
In order to use a single tank without the new plate and one of the wings
with the slots for straps, you'll need a single tank adapter.

> The dive rite setup does not
appear to be as complete however they have wings like the trek and rec
wing that are supposed to be good for both singles and doubles.

The issue is the amount of lift in the wing.
DiveRite is perfectly willing to send you out with too much lift.
Halcyon wants you to use the right wing.

Using a DiveRite wing that is too big is no safer than using a Halcyon wing
that is too big.
Using a wing that is too big has two major consequences:

1. extra drag
2. a quick ride up if the power inflator fails open

For the moment, I'm willing to deal with these and I use my 45# wing with a
single 112 and a single tank adapter I made myself.

> Do I bite the bullet and buy two wings from Halcyon?

I'm deciding if I like single tank diving enough to buy a 27# wing.
I'm leaning toward making the buy since there is plenty of shallow stuff to
dive here.

>Am I completely wrong on the dive rite gear and do not understand the
setup? Am I totally out to lunch and the diving that I am currently
doing does not warrant a back plate and wing and just get a regular BC?

I would recommend a Halcyon plate (probably steel) and wing to anyone doing
any kind of diving.

The aluminum plate is a pretty specialized device and you can probably get
along fine without it for the time being and could easily never need one.  I
use a steel plate with double AL80s in the ocean and would consider changing
the plate if I were to go deeper than about 100 feet with a wetsuit in fresh
water.  I'm too much of a candyass to take the temperatures down there in a
wetsuit, so an aluminum plate isn't an issue for me.

>I have also noticed that many of the PADI courses seem to gloss over
what I would consider important material, would someone recommend a
different training facility or just stick with PADI?

My OW is from SSI and my Nitrox and AOW are PADI.  I'm pretty impressed at
how much information was left out.

Right now I'm taking some TDI courses just to get the cards and I'm damn
glad I hang around here so I'll know what is useful information and what is
comic relief.

If I lived down JJ's way, I'd go GUE and ignore the rest of them.

Don Burke
Chesapeake, Virginia


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