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From: "Allyson" <allysonclagett@ea*.ne*>
To: <kevin.obrien03@us*.cg*.co*>, "'Manos Manoli'" <cytech@ma*.co*.cy*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Solo cash classes
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:12:23 -0400
Kevin,

Obviously, there is plenty of interest in a solo diving certification
course.  As you said, they would not develop training if their weren't
interest.  I don't think anyone here is against agencies or individuals
making money in the dive industry--we all make livings.  The problem lies in
teaching unsafe practices --and I am not talking just this solo diving
certification issue.

The thing that angered me about the article in Rodale's is that they
introduce the idea of the solo c-card on one page and then there is an
article (written by a lawyer) on the very next page outlining the dangers of
buddy diving: they scare the reader by saying a diver is legally responsible
for their dive buddy--he/she could get sued if something dreadful happens,
that having a buddy is a hindrance for experienced divers, and they say that
statistically dive partnerships fail more than they succeed.  (where did
they get these statistics?)  They are good, they disputed every good reason
to buddy dive.

Budding divers who are excited by a new ability and who starve for more
information about diving take articles such as this as gospel and I feel the
article(s) are one big advertisement for their class.  The tops of the pages
should say "advertisement."

Allyson


-----Original Message-----
From: kevin.obrien03@us*.cg*.co* [mailto:kevin.obrien03@us*.cg*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:45 AM
To: Manos Manoli
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Solo cash classes




At the risk of being severely flamed by many on this list, I have to
disagree on the solo diver issue.  I think that, for certain individuals,
there is nothing wrong with wanting to dive solo.  Aside from freedom of
choice, which presumably we all agree on, there are valid reasons for some
divers to want to dive solo.  Underwater photography is a perfect example.
Most of the time the buddy is bored to tears or nowhere to be found, as the
photo diver moves very slowly and may spend a lot of time (maybe the entire
dive) around a single subject. But let's get to the point that seems to
irritate most of those against solo diving.  You see it as a greed issue
for the agencies.  That's pure bullshit.  Most of the time, the agencies
are well behind the diving community, only finally creating new training
after there is a proven demand for it.  Come on, use your heads, is an
agency going to spend lots of $$ creating training materials, spending
legal fees, etc. for a course that only a very small number of people will
pay for.  Of course not.  The agencies are for-profit businesses.  They
provide a service that a reasonably large group of divers will want --
enough so that they can make money.  And making money isn't bad.  Anyone
else on this list in business ??  Do you want to make money -- or go broke
??  In fact, profit at the agencies allows them to do research, create new
training approaches and other things that have made this sport safer every
year. So, to the question of solo diving.  Why not allow a capable diver
that has appropriate training and experience to dive alone if he/she
chooses ??  At a minimum, the agencies might require advanced/rescue level
certification, minimum of 100 dives, max. depth 80-100 ft, completely
redundant gas supply with min. volume, say a 13 cf pony, etc. as
prerequisites.  As a recreational diving instructor, I can tell you that
when I have a group of non-certified open water students underwater on
their training dives, I am diving alone.  Who's going to help me if I have
a problem ??  One of the students ??  Not a chance in hell. OK, I've said
my piece.  Flame on. Safe diving -- KOB.

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