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35% He at 100 ft - I'm sorry but I don't believe this. I'm no advocate of
deep air but somebody needs to get real here!
Regards
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: pina [mailto:pina3@be*.ne*]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 02:33
To: NyWrecker@ao*.co*; Techdiver
Subject: RE: deep air Please help
The 35% would be 21-35 and the 45% would be 18-45 (with the first number
being the oxygen). The important part is that the EAD is maintained below
100 feet and the pp02max is below 1.4, and that HYPERoxic mixes are not used
in these ranges.
18% is not normoxic (21% is normoxic), but is accepted as such
generally. You shouldn't breathe it on the surface as a matter of practice.
You need to ditch this idiot instructor who was taking you to 150, 160,
180 on air (for what I assume must have been an Advanced Nitrox Course). Do
yourself a favor now and just take the rest of your training from GUE
http://www.gue.com The link on the website that says "Classroom" talks
about the courses. There is a GUE instructor that I know in NY - his name
is Bob Sherwood. His contact information is below.
Continuing with an instructor that is teaching you such dangerous
practices as deep air will not do you any good in further classes. The text
alone is faulty and error laden, but when combined with a poor instructor
becomes a complete waste of time and money as well as a personal danger. Do
not continue your training with this idiot just to do him a favor or because
you think he is a nice guy, do yourself a favor and get proper training.
Otherwise, you will just need to be retrained and retold later how do do
all the things safely that this idiot taught you to do unsafely, so you
might as well just get it taught to you properly the first time. The
current instructor would be teaching you improper deco mixes most likely,
too, like 80% or some other stupidity, not to mention the dangerously
inadequate gear he will likely recommend and uses himself. I've been there,
don't waste your money and time learning things wrong. This guy has proven
himself an idiot already, do you really want to trust him with your life?
Try this guy, he is in NY, or check the GUE website for another
instructor in your area if you like:
Bob Sherwood
829 Main Street
Vestal, NY 13850
Phone: 607.786.3941
Fax 607.748.7565
email: sherwood@gu*.co*
--pina
-----Original Message-----
From: NyWrecker@ao*.co* [mailto:NyWrecker@ao*.co*]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:33 AM
To: pina3@be*.ne*
Subject: Re: deep air Please help
In a message dated 5/31/2001 11:56:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
pina3@be*.ne* writes:
35% helium at least on dives to 100' to 150' (this is nice at
85'-90' also),
45% helium at least on dives to 200', and 55% helium at least on
dives to
250' - no hyperoxic mixes and pp02Max of 1.4 - more like 1.3 or 1.2
for
this 35-45 helium whats it called hypoxix-normoxix-or just a mix
course.He
said something about it being 2 seperate courses
Ed
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D040485223-03062001><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">35%
=
He at 100 ft=20
- I'm sorry but I don't believe this. I'm no advocate of deep air =
but=20
somebody needs to get real here!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D040485223-03062001><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D040485223-03062001><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D040485223-03062001><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D040485223-03062001><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pina=20
[mailto:pina3@be*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2001=20
02:33<BR><B>To:</B> NyWrecker@ao*.co*;
Techdiver<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE: deep=20
air Please help<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN =
class=3D579594512-01062001>The 35% would=20
be 21-35 and the 45% would be 18-45 (with the first number being the =
oxygen).<SPAN class=3D678202413-01062001> The important part =
is that the=20
EAD is maintained below 100 feet and the pp02max is below 1.4, and =
that=20
HYPERoxic mixes are not used in these =
ranges.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
class=3D579594512-01062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN =
class=3D579594512-01062001>18% is not=20
normoxic (21% is normoxic), but is accepted as such generally.<SPAN=20
class=3D678202413-01062001> You shouldn't breathe it on the =
surface as a=20
matter of practice.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
class=3D579594512-01062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN =
class=3D579594512-01062001>You need to=20
ditch this idiot instructor who was taking you to 150, 160, 180 on =
air (for=20
what I assume must have been an Advanced Nitrox Course). Do =
yourself a=20
favor now and just take the rest of your training from GUE <A=20
href=3D"http://www.gue.com/">http://www.gue.com</A> The =
link on=20
the website that says "Classroom" talks about the courses. =
There is a=20
GUE instructor that I know in NY - his name is Bob Sherwood. =
His=20
contact information is below. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
class=3D579594512-01062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN =
class=3D579594512-01062001>Continuing=20
with an instructor that is teaching you such dangerous practices as =
deep=20
air<SPAN class=3D678202413-01062001> will not do you any</SPAN> =
good <SPAN class=3D678202413-01062001>in </SPAN>further=20
classes. The text alone is faulty and error laden, <SPAN=20
class=3D182092113-01062001>but when combined with a poor instructor =
becomes a=20
complete waste of time <SPAN class=3D678202413-01062001>and =
money=20
</SPAN>as well as a personal danger. Do not continue your =
training=20
with this idiot just to do him a favor or because you think he is a =
nice=20
guy, do yourself a favor and get proper =
training.</SPAN> <SPAN=20
class=3D678202413-01062001> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN =
class=3D579594512-01062001><SPAN=20
class=3D678202413-01062001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN =
class=3D579594512-01062001><SPAN=20
class=3D678202413-01062001>Otherwise, </SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D678202413-01062001>y</SPAN>ou will just need to be retrained =
and=20
retold later how do do all the things safely that this idiot taught =
you to=20
do unsafely, so you might as well just get it taught to you properly =
the=20
first time. The current instructor would be teaching you =
improper deco=20
mixes most likely, too, like 80% or some other stupidity, not to =
mention the=20
dangerously inadequate gear he will likely recommend and uses =
himself. =20
I've been there, don't waste your money and time learning things=20
wrong. This guy has proven himself an idiot already, do you =
really=20
want to trust him with your life?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
class=3D579594512-01062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN =
class=3D579594512-01062001>Try this=20
guy, <SPAN class=3D678202413-01062001>he is in NY, </SPAN>or =
check the=20
GUE website for another instructor <SPAN =
class=3D678202413-01062001>in=20
your area</SPAN><SPAN class=3D678202413-01062001> </SPAN>if you=20
like:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN =
class=3D579594512-01062001><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D+2><B>Bob=20
Sherwood<BR></B></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif"><B>829 Main=20
Street<BR>Vestal, NY 13850<BR>Phone: 607.786.3941<BR>Fax =
607.748.7565=20
<BR>email: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:sherwood@gu*.co*">sherwood@gue.com</A></B></FONT></SP
AN></=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
class=3D579594512-01062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"><SPAN=20
class=3D579594512-01062001>--pina</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
NyWrecker@ao*.co*=20
[mailto:NyWrecker@ao*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2001
=
8:33=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> pina3@be*.ne*<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
deep =
air=20
Please help<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT
face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT =
size=3D2>In=20
a message dated 5/31/2001 11:56:25 PM Central Daylight Time,=20
<BR>pina3@be*.ne* writes: <BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff =
2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">35% helium at least on dives to 100' to 150' (this =
is nice=20
at 85'-90' also), <BR>45% helium at least on dives to 200', and =
55%=20
helium at least on dives to <BR>250' - no hyperoxic mixes and =
pp02Max of=20
1.4 - more like 1.3 or 1.2 for
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><B>this =
35-45=20
helium whats it called hypoxix-normoxix-or just a mix course.He =
<BR>said=20
something about it being 2 seperate courses=20
<BR> Ed</B></FONT>=20
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