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From: "George Irvine" <George-Irvine@em*.ne*>
To: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     "Capt JT"
Subject: Re: JT - was RE: Trimix Computers
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:52:08 -0400
Exactly, but then we know that from diving, not from "experts" who do not
dive.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
To: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: JT - was RE: Trimix Computers


> I knew I was close, I was wrong when I said 32%, but 36% proves me even
> more correct. The old tail that you have a clearer head on nitrox is
wrong,
> 02 is narcotic at depth  IMHO.
> VBtech found that out on our first group dive.
>
> Now imagine what happens to your clear head diving a mix with a low 02 /
> high He and NO nitrogen, then introduce a high 02 (which I consider
> narcotic) and nitrogen (which we know for a fact is narcotic), now it does
> not matter if it is instantaneously or a minute or 2 for the effects to
> hit, YOUR HAMMERED.
>
>
>    At 12:23 PM 6/2/01 -0400, Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* wrote:
> >Never read the Shipwrecks of Virginia book.  After I sent my email to you
I
> >grabbed my handy-dandy copy of the Lusitania Controversies and looked up
the
> >dive in book II.  You are correct, it documents the use of Heliox 16% as
a
> >travel gas to 320 and then a switch to a bottom mix of 12%.  Then
switching
> >back to 16% at 320 on the way up and then 36% Nitrox then O2.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Art.
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >From:   Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> >Sent:   Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:40 AM
> >To:     Paltz, Art; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Subject:        Re: JT - was RE: Trimix Computers
> >
> >Hi Art
> >You are correct that it was Gary, also Ken Clayton and Pete Mangee. The
> >story of what happen first surfaced to me from Pete and then was
confirmed
> >by Gary when I asked him. The story of Ostfrisland dive is in Shipwrecks
of
> >Virginia and the details of the mix are in his advance wreckdivng book I
> >think.
> >
> >JT
> >
> >
> >At 08:48 AM 6/2/01 -0400, Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* wrote:
> > >JT,
> > >
> > >In reading this.  I thought the first dives on the "Ostfrisland" was
done
> >by
> > >Gary Gentile?  I don't remember reading that he or the guy he was
diving
> > >with used Heliox?  Maybe I just don't remember reading correctly or
Gentile
> > >wasn't the first diver on the wreck?
> > >
> > >Art.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Example, the first dive to the wreck "Ostfrisland" depth 380ft was
done
> > > >with a heliox mix, there is no nitrogen in that mix, but the plan was
to
> > > >switch to a nitrox mix for deco which has a high nitrogen content.
What
> > > >happen to one of the divers was he nearly pass out from narcosis just
> >after
> > > >the switch. All the first divers to that wreck were deep air divers
and
> >one
> > > >out of three had a problem of "Not handling it", I don't like those
odds.
> > > >
> > > >JT
> > >
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