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From: "MHK" <mhkane@pr*.ne*>
To: "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>, <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>,
    
Subject: Re: deep air Please help
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:55:26 -0700
Paul,

The answer is simple..  When you get an instrokter like that the student
needs only to click on the following link

www.gue.com

No one needs to put up with the deep air shit anymore..  Most of us have had
no choice in the past when IANTD and TDI forced the deep air shit on us, but
those days are long gone..  If a student is too lazy to do due diligence and
get proper training from a proper instructor than diving deep may not be the
wisest course of action...

Later
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
To: <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: deep air Please help


> The problem is that people aren't aware of the options.  They have an
> instructor that they've been working with, whom they trust, and then
> the guy says "OK, the next step is to do Deep Air".  You try to
> argue, but the guy is adamant because he wants to make money on one
> more class.  You figure he must know his stuff, and you do want to
> progress to trimix, so you feel you have no choice.  It's classic,
> and it's criminal.
>
> <ScottBonis@ao*.co*> wrote:
> ~
> >Hi Ed,
> >
> >I'm having difficulty understanding your message.  How did an instructor
> >"FORCE" you to dive to 180 on air?  Did he physically restrain you and
pull
> >you down to that depth?
> >
> >I think you need to grow up and start to take some responsibility for
your
> >own decisions.  Yes IMHO, the instructor was wrong.  Yes IMHO, the dive
was
> >stupid.  But yes, you choose to make the dive.  So consider yourself
lucky
> >that you dodged the bullet this time and learn from it.
> >
> >Take care and dive safe,       Scott
> >
> >Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints
and
> >scramble up out of the pit.
> >
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 5/31/2001 10:00 AM NyWrecker@ao*.co* writes:
> >
> ><< ... Ive only ben diving for about 3 years.Im VERRY aware of this
deep
air
> >shit BUT i have asked a few people for a limit and cant get an answer.To
> >start off the rec limit is 130 on air.Last summer i was FORCED to go to
> >150-160-3 times and 180 on it.The MOD on the 180 was 220.I know stupid
BUT it
> >was with a TDI-IANTD instructor so what do you expect.I tried to get him
to
> >let me use a mix but he wouldnt and i thought he wouldnt but i had to
try...
> >>>
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