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From: <Gilldiver@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:16:20 EDT
Subject: Re: AUE artifact recovery
To: aocfishman@ho*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com

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If I might add a few comments to what has been being posted. I am working 
with the State archaeologist in Connecticut.  I found that you cannot fight 
them as they have the "Academic" background that get their side heard by the 
law makers. But if you work with them you may be able to guide their actions 
to avoid those wrecks that you as a diver want to dive. 

If you don't try to work with them you may find that wrecks are going to be 
restricted. Don't believe me? Take a look at the UK where all naval war 
wrecks may be posted as off limits. Or for the Great Lakes try Michigan where 
if you get caught taking an artifact from a wreck it is a felony. You want 
more restrictions: try Greece where they actually banned diving form most 
areas at one time (many are still banned) or Finland where just to dive a 
wreck you need advance permission, have to notify the Coast Guard when you 
enter the water, notify them when you leave the water, and don't even try to 
use a side scan or depth sounder to find a wreck.

Now how do you get the background to work with them? The best place I have 
found is the Nautical Archaeological Society. Take a look at them at: 
http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/

Their system is built to be used by sport/wreck divers and teaches basic 
artifact data collection and preservation. Do some of the data collection and 
present it to your local State archaeologists and you may find that their 
positions just may soften.

As for artifact preservation - lets face it all we collect is brass and 
glass, most of us don't know how to preserve wood, paper, leather, etc. It is 
not easy and can cost a lot.

Peter Johnson

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>If I might add a few
comments to what has been being posted. I am working 
<BR>with the State archaeologist in Connecticut.  I found that you
cannot fight 
<BR>them as they have the "Academic" background that get their side heard by
the 
<BR>law makers. But if you work with them you may be able to guide their
actions 
<BR>to avoid those wrecks that you as a diver want to dive. 
<BR>
<BR>If you don't try to work with them you may find that wrecks are going to
be 
<BR>restricted. Don't believe me? Take a look at the UK where all naval war 
<BR>wrecks may be posted as off limits. Or for the Great Lakes try Michigan
where 
<BR>if you get caught taking an artifact from a wreck it is a felony. You
want 
<BR>more restrictions: try Greece where they actually banned diving form
most 
<BR>areas at one time (many are still banned) or Finland where just to dive
a 
<BR>wreck you need advance permission, have to notify the Coast Guard when
you 
<BR>enter the water, notify them when you leave the water, and don't even
try to 
<BR>use a side scan or depth sounder to find a wreck.
<BR>
<BR>Now how do you get the background to work with them? The best place I
have 
<BR>found is the Nautical Archaeological Society. Take a look at them at: 
<BR>http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/
<BR>
<BR>Their system is built to be used by sport/wreck divers and teaches basic 
<BR>artifact data collection and preservation. Do some of the data
collection and 
<BR>present it to your local State archaeologists and you may find that
their 
<BR>positions just may soften.
<BR>
<BR>As for artifact preservation - lets face it all we collect is brass and 
<BR>glass, most of us don't know how to preserve wood, paper, leather, etc.
It is 
<BR>not easy and can cost a lot.
<BR>
<BR>Peter Johnson</FONT></HTML>

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