This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0E357.8E3E95A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only downside to going to all those funerals in one place is the lack of frequent flyer miles, and the Long Island Expressway traffic. These guys need to just set up "funeral on line" and go wireless so they can "attend" all of these funerals right from the boat as they are getting ready to do the same things that keep killing people. -----Original Message----- From: Steven Bliim [mailto:bliim@on*.ne*.au*] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 2:06 AM To: Trey; Wahoodiver@ao*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*; quest@gu*.co* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: Another NE wreck death If anyone needs another example of why DIR is "the" way to dive and NE USA/Wahoo style is not then read Steve Bielenda's post below. Sort of makes the idea of a balanced rig somewhat attractive does it not? I hear they do tec diver's wakes well in the NE, they should do they have enough practice. Cheers Steve Bliim "The back of beyond and further" - Sydney, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: Trey To: Wahoodiver@ao*.co* ; plewitsch@ya*.co* ; quest@gu*.co* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: RE: Another NE wreck death Steve, I am not going to even read this slop - go take a PADI course. Your bullshit is over , but it keeps on biting us all in the ass. -----Original Message----- From: Wahoodiver@ao*.co* [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:56 AM To: trey@ne*.co*; Wahoodiver@ao*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*; quest@gu*.co* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: Another NE wreck death Remember, trying to stand on the top of a sharp point give you very little purchase. I see you have very little patience nor can you answer a couple of questions directly without losing you temper. No, the last time I seen Tony Maffatone was last August when he was stepping off the deck of my boat alone to test his equipment. Tony knew the risks of diving alone and only dove alone, we discussed the risks many times, Tony dove to invent and invented to dive. Tony designed and built all his equipment, none store bought if it was he took it apart and redesigned it and made it better. Tony spent, three years building his system and 3 months diving his new design in 15 to 30 feet of water and this dive the second one to 100 feet was the next stage of testing. Tony talked about equipment failure and he tried to design every backup into his system, He had just removed the scuba second feeling the rest of his design had all backup needed. From examination of the incident and equipment, there was design fault with tank balance, if the lowest tank of the seven tanks was drained empty and others more than half full it flipped him on his back up side down. The system weighs out of water 265 lbs in water 150 lbs, Tony struggled to right himself he cut his suit legs to get the gas out and right himself but being upside down the XO FFM mask flooded he cut both his shoulder harness and made a free assent, rising feet first upside down and didn't make it. Like Berman and Exley Tony was pioneer and didn't die sitting at his computer and talking diving. He died following his dream, maybe not the way he say he would choose, but he did choose his time and place. We grieve Tony, like many will grieve Steve Bermans and Dave. You only think you are in control, I hope you never lose it. Captain Steve Bielenda In a message dated 5/22/2001 6:51:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, trey@ne*.co* writes: Subj:RE: Another NE wreck death Date: 5/22/2001 6:51:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey) To: Wahoodiver@ao*.co*, plewitsch@ya*.co*, quest@gu*.co* CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com Belinda, bullshit. Do not waste our time with your slop. You just never learn, do you? Seen Tony Maffatone lately? Keep up the piss poor example and the hard headed baloney. From: Wahoodiver@ao*.co* [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:43 PM To: trey@ne*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*; quest@gu*.co* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: Another NE wreck death Why do you have to have a buddy? This guy had a massive heart attack and died almost instantly, his video camera showed 22 minutes of video and a shudder and the camera dropped along with his mounted light, he started to inflate his buoyance system and died his light snaged into the wreck and held his body there. Where was Steve Berman dive buddy? Are the rules different for different area around the world, such as cave, NE wreck southern waters west coast or where ever? This is not an argument just some information and questions. Risk management is done by each diver themselves and the risk they are willing to take when diving alone are there own or with a dive partner, solo divers do not put others at risk. You may not like it but that the facts. NE wreck diving has had its share of diving deaths as many other areas of the world but non comes any were near the high count of cave diving deaths around the world, with and without there buddies. Captain Steve Bielenda In a message dated 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, trey@ne*.co* writes: Subj: RE: Another NE wreck death Date: 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey) To: plewitsch@ya*.co* (Paul Lewitsch), quest@gu*.co* CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com Paul, NE diving is a disgrace - partially due to the bullshit, and more due to the fact that the rest of you go along with it. Let me ask a question, and you NE divers can get out your dictionary to look up this word: "Where was this guy's B U D D Y ? -----Original Message----- From: Paul Lewitsch [mailto:plewitsch@ya*.co*] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:43 PM To: quest@gu*.co* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Another NE wreck death Anyone know the actual situation of what happened? George,you can disregard this email and hit delete. We know your views on NE diving and believe it or not we are working on a stroke free zone. It may take awhile but you have to start somewhere. It "may" be safe to assume he was "solo" since there is no mention of a buddy report. -------------------------------------- Routine Outing Fatal For Diver Mourning an unexplained death by J. Jioni Palmer Staff Writer David Scholl developed a passion for Long Island's waterways as a child growing up in Lawrence, near Jamaica Bay. As a youth, he'd spend countless hours fishing and boating, but what he loved most of all was diving deep below the ocean waves. That love carried through to adulthood as Scholl, 42, did a four-year stint in the Navy and worked part time at a diving-gear shop in Mineola. He seized every opportunity to go out onto the water, even volunteering on weekends as an instructor on board the dive boat the Seahawk, helping less experienced aquanauts hone their skills, relatives said. But Saturday, while on a routine jaunt from Freeport to a ship wreckage about 18 miles south of Fire Island an unexplained tragedy befell Scholl that took his life. "He was a diving fanatic," says his older brother Fred of Wading River, who dives for the New York City Fire Department. "His house was like a shrine; it was full of artifacts he picked up diving." Saturday's accident bewildered Scholl's friends and relatives, who said he was an experienced diver. "If anybody got hurt, Dave would be the first person to go help," said stepdaughter Sarah Silverman, 27. "It's kind of shocking that he'd be the one needing to get rescued." Scholl had explored the wreckage of the G&D,a coastal steamer that sank in 1918,more than a dozen times. He had anchored the dive-boat Seahawk to the wreckage about 110 feet below the surface on the sandy ocean bottom and given the "all-clear sign" indicating that it was safe for others to dive, his sister said. Not long after that, a fellow crewmember discovered his lifeless body near the wreckage. He was brought to the surface, where the boat's crew administered CPR and radioed the Coast Guard, which took him by helicopter to Nassau University Medical Center in East Meadow, where he was pronounced dead, said Suffolk County Homicide Det. Sgt. Arthur Ahl. "There is no indication at this point of a crime," he said, adding police were waiting for results of an autopsy by the Nassau County medical examiner. Divers from Suffolk's Marine Bureau are expected to examine the wreckage today in hopes of learning what went wrong, he said. Scholl's relatives said they hope police recover the underwater video camera he was carrying to shed light on the incident. Grieving friends and relatives yesterday remembered Scholl, who worked for the Village of Valley Stream driving a recycling truck, as an affable man with a generous heart who could light up a room with entertaining humor. "He was the class clown and the family comedian," said his sister Susan McBride, 48, of Rockaway Beach. "He was the happy-go-lucky guy that everybody loved." Scholl is survived by his companion of 10 years, Sue Silverman of Long Beach; his mother, Carole, and another sister, Debra; two children and four stepchildren. A wake will be today from 7-9 p.m. and tomorrow from 2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. at the Meserole Funeral Home in Inwood. 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Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com> Received: from rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (rly-yg04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.4]) by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:54:01 -0400 Received: from fulton.opal.com (fulton.opal.com [198.3.124.1]) by rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:53:30 -0400 Received: from fulton.opal.com (mail@lo*) by fulton.opal.com (8.9.3/jr4.0) with EXEC for id HAA32136; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:00:01 -0400 Received: (mail@lo*) by fulton.opal.com (8.9.3/jr4.0) for id HAA32125; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:00:01 -0400 Precedence: bulk Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Received: from fulton.opal.com (root@lo*) by fulton.opal.com (8.9.3/jr4.0) with EXEC for techdiver id GAA30830; Tue, 15 May 2001 06:20:07 -0400 Received: from ns.netdor.com (ns.netdor.com [209.203.201.3]) by fulton.opal.com (8.9.3/jr4.0) with ESMTP for <techdiver@aquanaut.com > id GAA30823; Tue, 15 May 2001 06:20:06 -0400 Received: from vaio ([209.203.202.59]) by ns.netdor.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 15 May 2001 06:23:10 -0400 From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey) To: "Paul Lewitsch" <plewitsch@ya*.co*>, <quest@gu*.co*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Subject: RE: Another NE wreck death Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:24:10 -0400 Message-ID: <MABBKNLDLNNBFCMCJFMDAEEFCMAA.trey@ne*.co*> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010514174318.65777.qmail@we*.ma*.ya*.co*> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <trey@ne*.co*> Received: from rly-xd04.mx.aol.com (rly-xd04.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.169]) by air-xd04.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 May 2001 06:51:13 -0400 Received: from ns.netdor.com (ns.netdor.com [209.203.201.3]) by rly-xd04.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 May 2001 06:50:54 -0400 Received: from vaio ([209.203.202.23]) by ns.netdor.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 22 May 2001 06:54:17 -0400 From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey) To: <Wahoodiver@ao*.co*>, <plewitsch@ya*.co*>, <quest@gu*.co*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Subject: RE: Another NE wreck death Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:55:11 -0400 Message-ID: <MABBKNLDLNNBFCMCJFMDEEMACMAA.trey@ne*.co*> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C0E28C.251C89E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6a.e3bdc73.283b101a@ao*.co*> ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0E357.8E3E95A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN = class=3D890240611-23052001>The=20 only downside to going to all those funerals in one place is the lack of = frequent flyer miles, and the Long Island Expressway traffic. These guys = need to=20 just set up "funeral on line" and go wireless so they can "attend" all = of these=20 funerals right from the boat as they are getting ready to do the same = things=20 that keep killing people.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2><SPAN class=3D890240611-23052001><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial=20 size=3D4> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2><SPAN class=3D890240611-23052001> </SPAN>-----Original=20 Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Steven Bliim=20 [mailto:bliim@on*.ne*.au*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 23, 2001 2:06 = AM<BR><B>To:</B> Trey; Wahoodiver@ao*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*;=20 quest@gu*.co*<BR><B>Cc:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> = Re:=20 Another NE wreck death<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If anyone needs another example of = why DIR is=20 "the" way to dive and NE USA/Wahoo style is not then read Steve = Bielenda's=20 post below. Sort of makes the idea of a balanced rig somewhat = attractive does=20 it not? I hear they do tec diver's wakes well in the NE, they should = do they=20 have enough practice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve Bliim</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"The back of beyond and further" -=20 Sydney, Australia.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*" title=3Dtrey@ne*.co*>Trey</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*"=20 title=3DWahoodiver@ao*.co*>Wahoodiver@aol.com</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:plewitsch@ya*.co*"=20 title=3Dplewitsch@ya*.co*>plewitsch@yahoo.com</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*" = title=3Dquest@gu*.co*>quest@gue.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20 title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 23, 2001 = 11:45=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Another NE wreck = death</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN=20 class=3D160584101-23052001>Steve, I am not going to even read this = slop - go=20 take a PADI course. Your bullshit is over , but it keeps on biting = us all in=20 the ass.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*">Wahoodiver@aol.com</A>=20 [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 9:56=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*">Wahoodiver@aol.com</A>; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:plewitsch@ya*.co*">plewitsch@yahoo.com</A>; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A><BR><B >S= ubject:</B>=20 Re: Another NE wreck death<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT=20 face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Remember, trying to stand on the top of a = sharp point=20 give you very little <BR>purchase.=20 <BR><BR> I see you have = very=20 little patience nor can you answer a couple of <BR>questions = directly=20 without losing you temper. = <BR> No, the=20 last time I seen Tony Maffatone was last August when he was = <BR>stepping=20 off the deck of my boat alone to test his equipment. Tony = knew the=20 <BR>risks of diving alone and only dove alone, we discussed the = risks many=20 times, <BR>Tony dove to invent and invented to dive. Tony = designed=20 and built all his <BR>equipment, none store bought if it was he = took it=20 apart and redesigned it and <BR>made it better. Tony spent, = three=20 years building his system and 3 months <BR>diving his new design = in 15 to=20 30 feet of water and this dive the second one <BR>to 100 feet was = the next=20 stage of testing. Tony talked about equipment <BR>failure and he = tried to=20 design every backup into his system, He had just <BR>removed the = scuba=20 second feeling the rest of his design had all backup = <BR>needed.=20 <BR> From examination of the = incident=20 and equipment, there was design <BR>fault with tank balance, = if the=20 lowest tank of the seven tanks was drained <BR>empty and others = more than=20 half full it flipped him on his back up side down. <BR>The system = weighs=20 out of water 265 lbs in water 150 lbs, Tony struggled to <BR>right = himself=20 he cut his suit legs to get the gas out and right himself but = <BR>being=20 upside down the XO FFM mask flooded he cut both his shoulder = harness=20 <BR>and made a free assent, rising feet first upside down = and didn't=20 make it. <BR>Like Berman and Exley Tony was pioneer and = didn't die=20 sitting at his <BR>computer and talking diving.=20 <BR> He died following his = dream, maybe=20 not the way he say he would choose, <BR>but he did choose his time = and=20 place. We grieve Tony, like many will grieve <BR>Steve Bermans and = Dave.=20 <BR> You only think you are in = control,=20 I hope you never lose it. <BR><BR>Captain Steve Bielenda <BR>In a = message=20 dated 5/22/2001 6:51:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = <BR>trey@ne*.co*=20 writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">Subj:<B>RE: Another NE wreck death</B> <BR>Date: = 5/22/2001=20 6:51:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time <BR><I>From:=20 trey@ne*.co* (Trey) <BR>To:=20 Wahoodiver@ao*.co*, plewitsch@ya*.co*, = quest@gu*.co*=20 <BR>CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 <BR></I><BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial lang=3D0=20 size=3D4 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Belinda, bullshit. Do not waste = our time with=20 your slop. You just never <BR>learn, do you? Seen Tony Maffatone = lately?=20 Keep up the piss poor example <BR>and the hard headed baloney.=20 </FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 = face=3DTahoma lang=3D0=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><B>From:</B> = Wahoodiver@ao*.co*=20 [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 21, = 2001 8:43=20 PM <BR><B>To:</B> trey@ne*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*; = quest@gu*.co*=20 <BR><B>Cc:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com <BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: = Another NE=20 wreck death <BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 = face=3Darial lang=3D0=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">Why do you have to have a buddy?=20 <BR> This guy had a massive heart = attack=20 and died almost instantly, his <BR>video camera showed 22 = minutes of=20 video and a shudder and the camera <BR>dropped <BR>along with = his=20 mounted light, he started to inflate his buoyance system = <BR>and=20 <BR>died his light snaged into the wreck and held his body = there.=20 <BR>Where was Steve Berman dive buddy? <BR>Are the rules = different for=20 different area around the world, such as cave, <BR>NE = <BR>wreck=20 southern waters west coast or where ever? <BR>This is not an = argument=20 just some information and questions. <BR>Risk management is = done by=20 each diver themselves and the risk they are <BR>willing to = take when=20 diving alone are there own or with a dive partner, <BR>solo = <BR>divers=20 do not put others at risk. = <BR> You may=20 not like it but that the facts. NE wreck diving has had its = <BR>share=20 of diving deaths as many other areas of the world but non = comes any=20 <BR>were near the high count of cave diving deaths around the = world,=20 with and <BR>without there buddies. <BR><BR>Captain Steve = Bielenda=20 <BR><BR>In a message dated 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight = Time,=20 <BR>trey@ne*.co* <BR>writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">Subj: <B>RE: Another NE wreck death</B> = <BR>Date:=20 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time <BR><I>From:=20 trey@ne*.co* (Trey) <BR>To:=20 plewitsch@ya*.co* (Paul Lewitsch), = quest@gu*.co*=20 <BR>CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 <BR></I><BR><BR><BR><BR>Paul, NE diving is a disgrace - = partially=20 due to the bullshit, and more <BR>due <BR>to the fact that = the rest=20 of you go along with it. <BR><BR>Let me ask a question, and = you NE=20 divers can get out your dictionary to <BR>look <BR>up this = word:=20 "Where was this guy's B U D D Y ? <BR><BR>-----Original = Message-----=20 <BR>From: Paul Lewitsch [mailto:plewitsch@ya*.co*] = <BR>Sent:=20 Monday, May 14, 2001 1:43 PM <BR>To: quest@gu*.co* <BR>Cc:=20 techdiver@aquanaut.com <BR>Subject: Another NE wreck death=20 <BR><BR><BR>Anyone know the actual situation of what = happened?=20 <BR>George,you can disregard this email and hit delete. We = <BR>know=20 your views on NE diving and believe it or not we <BR>are = working on=20 a stroke free zone. It may take awhile <BR>but you have to = start=20 somewhere. <BR><BR>It "may" be safe to assume he was "solo" = since=20 there <BR>is no mention of a buddy report.=20 <BR>-------------------------------------- <BR>Routine = Outing Fatal=20 For Diver <BR>Mourning an unexplained death <BR>by J. Jioni = Palmer=20 <BR>Staff Writer <BR><BR>David Scholl developed a passion = for Long=20 Island's <BR>waterways as a child growing up in Lawrence, = near=20 <BR>Jamaica Bay. As a youth, he'd spend countless hours = <BR>fishing=20 and boating, but what he loved most of all was <BR>diving = deep below=20 the ocean waves. <BR><BR>That love carried through to = adulthood as=20 Scholl, 42, <BR>did a four-year stint in the Navy and worked = part=20 time <BR>at a diving-gear shop in Mineola. He seized every=20 <BR>opportunity to go out onto the water, even = <BR>volunteering on=20 weekends as an instructor on board the <BR>dive boat the = Seahawk,=20 helping less experienced <BR>aquanauts hone their skills, = relatives=20 said. <BR><BR>But Saturday, while on a routine jaunt from = Freeport=20 <BR>to a ship wreckage about 18 miles south of Fire Island = <BR>an=20 unexplained tragedy befell Scholl that took his <BR>life.=20 <BR><BR>"He was a diving fanatic," says his older brother = Fred=20 <BR>of Wading River, who dives for the New York City Fire=20 <BR>Department. "His house was like a shrine; it was full = <BR>of=20 artifacts he picked up diving." Saturday's accident = <BR>bewildered=20 Scholl's friends and relatives, who said he <BR>was an = experienced=20 diver. "If anybody got hurt, Dave <BR>would be the first = person to=20 go help," said <BR>stepdaughter Sarah Silverman, 27. "It's = kind of=20 <BR>shocking that he'd be the one needing to get rescued."=20 <BR>Scholl had explored the wreckage of the G&D,a = coastal=20 <BR>steamer that sank in 1918,more than a dozen times. He = <BR>had=20 anchored the dive-boat Seahawk to the wreckage <BR>about 110 = feet=20 below the surface on the sandy ocean <BR>bottom and given = the=20 "all-clear sign" indicating that <BR>it was safe for others = to dive,=20 his sister said. <BR><BR>Not long after that, a fellow = crewmember=20 discovered <BR>his lifeless body near the wreckage. = <BR><BR>He was=20 brought to the surface, where the boat's crew = <BR>administered CPR=20 and radioed the Coast Guard, which <BR>took him by = helicopter to=20 Nassau University Medical <BR>Center in East Meadow, where = he was=20 pronounced dead, <BR>said Suffolk County Homicide Det. Sgt. = Arthur=20 Ahl. <BR><BR>"There is no indication at this point of a = crime," he=20 <BR>said, adding police were waiting for results of an = <BR>autopsy=20 by the Nassau County medical examiner. <BR><BR>Divers from = Suffolk's=20 Marine Bureau are expected to <BR>examine the wreckage today = in=20 hopes of learning what <BR>went wrong, he said. = <BR><BR>Scholl's=20 relatives said they hope police recover the <BR>underwater = video=20 camera he was carrying to shed light <BR>on the incident.=20 <BR><BR>Grieving friends and relatives yesterday remembered=20 <BR>Scholl, who worked for the Village of Valley Stream = <BR>driving=20 a recycling truck, as an affable man with a <BR>generous = heart who=20 could light up a room with <BR>entertaining humor. = <BR><BR>"He was=20 the class clown and the family comedian," said <BR>his = sister Susan=20 McBride, 48, of Rockaway Beach. "He <BR>was the = happy-go-lucky guy=20 that everybody loved." <BR>Scholl is survived by his = companion of 10=20 years, Sue <BR>Silverman of Long Beach; his mother, Carole, = and=20 <BR>another sister, Debra; two children and four = <BR>stepchildren.=20 <BR><BR>A wake will be today from 7-9 p.m. and tomorrow from = <BR>2-4=20 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. <BR><BR>at the Meserole Funeral Home in = Inwood.=20 Funeral <BR>services will be Wednesday at 11 a.m. at the = Lutheran=20 <BR>Church of the Incarnation in Cedarhurst, with = <BR>cremation=20 following.=20 = <BR><BR><BR>__________________________________________________=20 <BR>Do You Yahoo!? <BR>Yahoo! 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