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Belinda, bullshit. Do not waste our time with your slop. You just never
learn, do you? Seen Tony Maffatone lately? Keep up the piss poor example and
the hard headed baloney.
From: Wahoodiver@ao*.co* [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:43 PM
To: trey@ne*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*; quest@gu*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Another NE wreck death
Why do you have to have a buddy?
This guy had a massive heart attack and died almost instantly, his
video camera showed 22 minutes of video and a shudder and the camera
dropped
along with his mounted light, he started to inflate his buoyance system
and
died his light snaged into the wreck and held his body there.
Where was Steve Berman dive buddy?
Are the rules different for different area around the world, such as cave,
NE
wreck southern waters west coast or where ever?
This is not an argument just some information and questions.
Risk management is done by each diver themselves and the risk they are
willing to take when diving alone are there own or with a dive partner,
solo
divers do not put others at risk.
You may not like it but that the facts. NE wreck diving has had its
share of diving deaths as many other areas of the world but non comes any
were near the high count of cave diving deaths around the world, with and
without there buddies.
Captain Steve Bielenda
In a message dated 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
trey@ne*.co*
writes:
Subj: RE: Another NE wreck death
Date: 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: plewitsch@ya*.co* (Paul Lewitsch), quest@gu*.co*
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Paul, NE diving is a disgrace - partially due to the bullshit, and more
due
to the fact that the rest of you go along with it.
Let me ask a question, and you NE divers can get out your dictionary to
look
up this word: "Where was this guy's B U D D Y ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lewitsch [mailto:plewitsch@ya*.co*]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:43 PM
To: quest@gu*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Another NE wreck death
Anyone know the actual situation of what happened?
George,you can disregard this email and hit delete. We
know your views on NE diving and believe it or not we
are working on a stroke free zone. It may take awhile
but you have to start somewhere.
It "may" be safe to assume he was "solo" since there
is no mention of a buddy report.
--------------------------------------
Routine Outing Fatal For Diver
Mourning an unexplained death
by J. Jioni Palmer
Staff Writer
David Scholl developed a passion for Long Island's
waterways as a child growing up in Lawrence, near
Jamaica Bay. As a youth, he'd spend countless hours
fishing and boating, but what he loved most of all was
diving deep below the ocean waves.
That love carried through to adulthood as Scholl, 42,
did a four-year stint in the Navy and worked part time
at a diving-gear shop in Mineola. He seized every
opportunity to go out onto the water, even
volunteering on weekends as an instructor on board the
dive boat the Seahawk, helping less experienced
aquanauts hone their skills, relatives said.
But Saturday, while on a routine jaunt from Freeport
to a ship wreckage about 18 miles south of Fire Island
an unexplained tragedy befell Scholl that took his
life.
"He was a diving fanatic," says his older brother Fred
of Wading River, who dives for the New York City Fire
Department. "His house was like a shrine; it was full
of artifacts he picked up diving." Saturday's accident
bewildered Scholl's friends and relatives, who said he
was an experienced diver. "If anybody got hurt, Dave
would be the first person to go help," said
stepdaughter Sarah Silverman, 27. "It's kind of
shocking that he'd be the one needing to get rescued."
Scholl had explored the wreckage of the G&D,a coastal
steamer that sank in 1918,more than a dozen times. He
had anchored the dive-boat Seahawk to the wreckage
about 110 feet below the surface on the sandy ocean
bottom and given the "all-clear sign" indicating that
it was safe for others to dive, his sister said.
Not long after that, a fellow crewmember discovered
his lifeless body near the wreckage.
He was brought to the surface, where the boat's crew
administered CPR and radioed the Coast Guard, which
took him by helicopter to Nassau University Medical
Center in East Meadow, where he was pronounced dead,
said Suffolk County Homicide Det. Sgt. Arthur Ahl.
"There is no indication at this point of a crime," he
said, adding police were waiting for results of an
autopsy by the Nassau County medical examiner.
Divers from Suffolk's Marine Bureau are expected to
examine the wreckage today in hopes of learning what
went wrong, he said.
Scholl's relatives said they hope police recover the
underwater video camera he was carrying to shed light
on the incident.
Grieving friends and relatives yesterday remembered
Scholl, who worked for the Village of Valley Stream
driving a recycling truck, as an affable man with a
generous heart who could light up a room with
entertaining humor.
"He was the class clown and the family comedian," said
his sister Susan McBride, 48, of Rockaway Beach. "He
was the happy-go-lucky guy that everybody loved."
Scholl is survived by his companion of 10 years, Sue
Silverman of Long Beach; his mother, Carole, and
another sister, Debra; two children and four
stepchildren.
A wake will be today from 7-9 p.m. and tomorrow from
2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m.
at the Meserole Funeral Home in Inwood. Funeral
services will be Wednesday at 11 a.m. at the Lutheran
Church of the Incarnation in Cedarhurst, with
cremation following.
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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Paul Lewitsch" <plewitsch@ya*.co*>, <quest@gu*.co*>
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Subject: RE: Another NE wreck death
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN=20
class=3D780355010-22052001>Belinda, bullshit. Do not waste our time with =
your=20
slop. You just never learn, do you? Seen Tony Maffatone lately? Keep up =
the piss=20
poor example and the hard headed baloney. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D780355010-22052001> </SPAN><BR><B>From:</B> =
Wahoodiver@ao*.co*=20
[mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 21, 2001
8:43=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> trey@ne*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*;=20
quest@gu*.co*<BR><B>Cc:</B>
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
Another NE wreck death<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>Why
do =
you have to=20
have a buddy? <BR> This guy had a =
massive=20
heart attack and died almost instantly, his <BR>video camera showed 22 =
minutes=20
of video and a shudder and the camera dropped <BR>along with his =
mounted=20
light, he started to inflate his buoyance system and <BR>died his =
light snaged=20
into the wreck and held his body there. <BR>Where was Steve Berman =
dive buddy?=20
<BR>Are the rules different for different area around the world, such =
as cave,=20
NE <BR>wreck southern waters west coast or where ever? <BR>This is not =
an=20
argument just some information and questions. <BR>Risk management is =
done by=20
each diver themselves and the risk they are <BR>willing to take when =
diving=20
alone are there own or with a dive partner, solo <BR>divers do not put =
others=20
at risk. <BR> You may not like it =
but that=20
the facts. NE wreck diving has had its <BR>share of diving deaths as =
many=20
other areas of the world but non comes any <BR>were near the high =
count of=20
cave diving deaths around the world, with and <BR>without there =
buddies.=20
<BR><BR>Captain Steve Bielenda <BR><BR>In a message dated 5/15/01
=
7:54:01 AM=20
Eastern Daylight Time, trey@ne*.co* <BR>writes: <BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">Subj: <B>RE: Another NE wreck death</B> <BR>Date: =
5/15/01=20
7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time <BR><I>From:=20
trey@ne*.co* (Trey) <BR>To:=20
plewitsch@ya*.co* (Paul Lewitsch), quest@gu*.co* =
<BR>CC:=20
techdiver@aquanaut.com =
<BR></I><BR><BR><BR><BR>Paul, NE=20
diving is a disgrace - partially due to the bullshit, and more due =
<BR>to=20
the fact that the rest of you go along with it. <BR><BR>Let me ask a =
question, and you NE divers can get out your dictionary to look =
<BR>up this=20
word: "Where was this guy's B U D D Y ? <BR><BR>-----Original =
Message-----=20
<BR>From: Paul Lewitsch [mailto:plewitsch@ya*.co*] <BR>Sent: =
Monday, May=20
14, 2001 1:43 PM <BR>To: quest@gu*.co* <BR>Cc: =
techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
<BR>Subject: Another NE wreck death <BR><BR><BR>Anyone know the
=
actual=20
situation of what happened? <BR>George,you can disregard this email =
and hit=20
delete. We <BR>know your views on NE diving and believe it or not we =
<BR>are=20
working on a stroke free zone. It may take awhile <BR>but you have =
to start=20
somewhere. <BR><BR>It "may" be safe to assume he was "solo" since =
there=20
<BR>is no mention of a buddy report.=20
<BR>-------------------------------------- <BR>Routine Outing Fatal =
For=20
Diver <BR>Mourning an unexplained death <BR>by J. Jioni Palmer =
<BR>Staff=20
Writer <BR><BR>David Scholl developed a passion for Long Island's=20
<BR>waterways as a child growing up in Lawrence, near <BR>Jamaica =
Bay. As a=20
youth, he'd spend countless hours <BR>fishing and boating, but what =
he loved=20
most of all was <BR>diving deep below the ocean waves.
<BR><BR>That =
love=20
carried through to adulthood as Scholl, 42, <BR>did a four-year =
stint in the=20
Navy and worked part time <BR>at a diving-gear shop in Mineola. He =
seized=20
every <BR>opportunity to go out onto the water, even =
<BR>volunteering on=20
weekends as an instructor on board the <BR>dive boat the Seahawk, =
helping=20
less experienced <BR>aquanauts hone their skills, relatives said.=20
<BR><BR>But Saturday, while on a routine jaunt from Freeport
<BR>to =
a ship=20
wreckage about 18 miles south of Fire Island <BR>an unexplained =
tragedy=20
befell Scholl that took his <BR>life. <BR><BR>"He was a diving =
fanatic,"=20
says his older brother Fred <BR>of Wading River, who dives for the =
New York=20
City Fire <BR>Department. "His house was like a shrine; it was full =
<BR>of=20
artifacts he picked up diving." Saturday's accident <BR>bewildered =
Scholl's=20
friends and relatives, who said he <BR>was an experienced diver. "If =
anybody=20
got hurt, Dave <BR>would be the first person to go help," said=20
<BR>stepdaughter Sarah Silverman, 27. "It's kind of <BR>shocking =
that he'd=20
be the one needing to get rescued." <BR>Scholl had explored the =
wreckage of=20
the G&D,a coastal <BR>steamer that sank in 1918,more than a =
dozen times.=20
He <BR>had anchored the dive-boat Seahawk to the wreckage <BR>about =
110 feet=20
below the surface on the sandy ocean <BR>bottom and given the =
"all-clear=20
sign" indicating that <BR>it was safe for others to dive, his sister =
said.=20
<BR><BR>Not long after that, a fellow crewmember discovered
<BR>his =
lifeless=20
body near the wreckage. <BR><BR>He was brought to the surface, where =
the=20
boat's crew <BR>administered CPR and radioed the Coast Guard, which =
<BR>took=20
him by helicopter to Nassau University Medical <BR>Center in East =
Meadow,=20
where he was pronounced dead, <BR>said Suffolk County Homicide Det. =
Sgt.=20
Arthur Ahl. <BR><BR>"There is no indication at this point of a =
crime," he=20
<BR>said, adding police were waiting for results of an <BR>autopsy =
by the=20
Nassau County medical examiner. <BR><BR>Divers from Suffolk's Marine =
Bureau=20
are expected to <BR>examine the wreckage today in hopes of learning =
what=20
<BR>went wrong, he said. <BR><BR>Scholl's relatives said they hope
=
police=20
recover the <BR>underwater video camera he was carrying to shed =
light <BR>on=20
the incident. <BR><BR>Grieving friends and relatives yesterday =
remembered=20
<BR>Scholl, who worked for the Village of Valley Stream <BR>driving =
a=20
recycling truck, as an affable man with a <BR>generous heart who =
could light=20
up a room with <BR>entertaining humor. <BR><BR>"He was the class =
clown and=20
the family comedian," said <BR>his sister Susan McBride, 48, of =
Rockaway=20
Beach. "He <BR>was the happy-go-lucky guy that everybody loved." =
<BR>Scholl=20
is survived by his companion of 10 years, Sue <BR>Silverman of Long =
Beach;=20
his mother, Carole, and <BR>another sister, Debra; two children and =
four=20
<BR>stepchildren. <BR><BR>A wake will be today from 7-9 p.m. and =
tomorrow=20
from <BR>2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. <BR><BR>at the Meserole Funeral
Home =
in=20
Inwood. Funeral <BR>services will be Wednesday at 11 a.m. at the =
Lutheran=20
<BR>Church of the Incarnation in Cedarhurst, with <BR>cremation =
following.=20
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