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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Civility WAS:RE BITE THE BIG APPLE
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:16:29 -0400

JT, I have been diving a little longer than you have, and the dives I do
which were or are record distances take a little more than falling off a
boat. Maybe you can tell all of us how many people have been killed by that
kind of instant gratification ( start in the hundreds) , and then I will
tell you how many have been killed diving to 8 or 10 or 15 or 19,000 feet
into a cave: NONE. Nobody is going to run out and go 19,000 feet to copy me
and get killed, because to get there they have to go 1000, 5000 etc and
learn, not just fall off the boat.

And, JT, I did not miss the cave when I went 19 Grand.

You keep claiming Berm was a friend of yours and trained your guys. Why
don't you treat him that way and stop using him as a weapon? He was not my
problem, and is not now. I do not allow solo diving in the WKPP and we all
do things the same way in WKPP and GUE.

JT, I have never criticized anyone for getting bent in any organization. I
believe in immediate treatment for any bends cases and I insist on it in my
organization. You criticize me for knowing somebody who thinks they got bent
on a recreational ocean dive and went to the chamber as a personal attack on
me . Not only is your example in diving a disgrace and nothing better than
the well known deep air divers, your attitude about the bends is a disgrace
and leads to people hiding these things, and now this attitude about Stevie.

You are a real contributor, JT.

-----Original Message-----
From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 6:58 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Civility WAS:RE BITE THE BIG APPLE


Trey, the whole list knows the truth, you can fool some of the people all
of the time, you can fool all the people some of the time, but you CANNOT
fool ALL the people ALL the time.

You just don't get it do you, you just keep trying to sell it, but only a
few know the truth to what your selling and I'm one of them. I'm not buying
it or promoting it for you. I will not fall into the trap you sit on the
newbies, you have enough wannabee techies on this list for that.

You often try to use the depths of my dives against me which is just a
measurement  others calculate  into skill and ability, then you turn right
around and brag about your 18,000 ft which is also just a measurement,
which others calculate it into skill and ability. You are the true
"Hypocrite"!

Many on this list watch you and me go at it, I just want the true facts to
be posted and you just like to twist them, Steve is dead and that is a
fact, when you can't twist it without stepping on your dick, you call for
JJ.

You make Steve out to be some kind gofer boy for JJ and then he claims to
be a friend of Steve's with a post that you forward.

Sure Steve made a mistake diving solo, but I can understand why, you guys
are bailing on him now, why would he want a buddy like that, he knows what
to expect diving solo.

You and JJ need to go back to the drawing board, reexamine the plan, your
team needs to know what to expect you will say about them in the event of
their death.

As for Dr. Black, those on this list should pay close attention to when he
post and you do, there is too much connection there, maybe I'll email Mr
Clark and see what he thinks.

JT

   At 06:28 AM 5/17/01 -0400, Trey wrote:

>JT, the whole world is sick of trying to read techdiver only to find this
>kind of petty nonsense - your specialty, because, to quote my dive partner,
>you are a paranoid idiot with nothing to say and a huge resentment who just
>wants to fuck with the big boys.
>
>I will point out here that with all the effort that you and the Tom Mounts,
>Bill Reanakersw and the rest who hate me so much put into trying to find
>fault with what I have put together, the best you can come up with for a
>lifetime of my diving is that I dove on a boat where the mate apparently
was
>using air ( gee, I forgot my mate analyzer, but I am taking your word for
it
>since this seems to be a huge victory for you in your battle with me ),
that
>somebody I know got bent, like I am supposed to give a shit, and now the
>drown in a few feet of water? Come on, big time, you have seen me up close
>in person. I am a Masters Swimmer. I can swim farther than you can walk,
>tough guy. And to top it off, you run an attack on me like I am Steve
>Berman's keeper and it turns out he is Aurich's friend, and yet you still
>use him as a weapon against me? Dumb fuck, can you spell "hypocrite"?
>
>Let me clarify something here. I have a big problem with ignoramuses like
>you dispensing dive advice, pretending you know something, and then
bragging
>about depth and other mindless bullshit on here when the fact is I have
seen
>you in action and know for a fact that you are a complete neophyte with no
>clue about anything to do with this sport, and I am quite confident that if
>you just kept your mouth shut and tried to learn something, that all would
>be safer for it.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:18 PM
>To: Techdiver@Aquanaut. Com
>Subject: Re: Civility WAS:RE BITE THE BIG APPLE
>
>
>First lets make this clear, for some own claims to not be in the business,
>what are you doing teaching.
>
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