David, I do not know what you mean by the "facts", but I saw and listened to
the tape, mostly the pre dive discussion. You guys do not - repeat DO NOT -
know what you are talking about and it is outright embarrassing. The reason
it is embarrassing is that not only should you know, the only reason you do
not know is that the resentful little JT does not want to ask anyone who
could help him, and all of you are listening to him. That is too much. The
guessing and theorizing and shear ignorance of the comments made is
embarrassing to watch. Funny, we have a 100+ man team that fully understands
all of this stuff, and I will bet that most people out there who follow our
activities or discussions know it as well. You guys chose to ignore it due
to petty resentment, but I can detect in the tape that when the rubber gets
ready to meet the road, there is some lingering concern that maybe you guys
should have found out for sure. That is evident in some of the
misinterpretive comments made by Aurich and others - again, embarrassing.

You guys are setting a bad example and making assholes out of yourselves
with JT's personal bullshit being sprayed all over the place. As long as all
of you go along with this ignorant stupidity, you are all guilty, and
certainly nobody from our organization is going to waste any time on you
with JT yapping out of his ass about nonsense. Shut the moron up and tell
him to take a seat so the rest of you can learn how to do this from those
who know. This guy knows NOTHING, and he made a tape to prove it, a website
to prove it, and I have seen it first hand. N O T H I N G - not a single
thing worth knowing.


-----Original Message-----
From: David B. Widen [mailto:dwiden@tw*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:17 PM
To: vbtech@ci*.co*; Capt JT; Trey
Cc: Techdiver @ Aquanaut . Com
Subject: RE: WEB UPDATE


Trey

Maybe you can get all the facts first before you pass judgment. I see no
sheep up here, are they down in Florida? We are willing to discuss
(meaningful) and learn. Where are you, just throwing out remarks and
comments, many of which are just general BS.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: listowner@ci*.co* [mailto:listowner@ci*.co*]On
Behalf Of Trey
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:53 PM
To: Capt JT; vbtech@ci*.co*
Cc: Techdiver @ Aquanaut . Com
Subject: RE: WEB UPDATE


 JT, the diving is bad enough - what is really ridiculous is the
discussion
beforehand : you guys are really operating from a position of total
ignorance. You really do not know what you are doing at all in any
respect.
I really hope nobody up there is risking their ass listening to your
baloney. Wake up and get some answers or find somebody whom your false
pride, hubris, and fragile little ego can listen to, and skip the
personal
bullshit with me.

  I have a problem with your dangerous nonsense and reckless disregard
for
anything that makes any sense. You have a problem with me personally. I
have
no problem with you personally, you are nothing to me. You are just one
more
guy trying to have fun. The problem is you need some help - BADLY - and
you
are leading the sheep over the cliff. That tape is a severe case of the
blind leading the blind. The only way that tape would appear to make any
sense is if you were passing the bong around - that is how far off you
are
on every little piece of that discussion.


-----Original Message-----
From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:17 AM
To: vbtech@ci*.co*
Cc: FLTechDiver@mikey.net; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: WEB UPDATE


Trey, glad you like the tape. I'm sure you would agree that it was an
extreme dive. Like you said in an earlier post, you can get whacked at
that
depth. The only good thing about a dive that deep and getting whacked in
your back yard is, it's out of yours and anyone on your teams range for
a
showboat body recovery. I sure you'll answer this with some bullshit
about
you and JJ doing 450ft dives 10 years ago on a single 12cuft pony bottle
on
OC and you did it using a homemade "cuban fishing reel"(translates to a
stolen kids bicycle rim here, I guess we should expect a Halcyon DIR/ GI
approved Cuban deep diving reel on the market soon, will it come with
its
own instructional DIR tape, quick tell all the weenies where to send the
3
easy payments of 499.oo while its a hot topic on the list. Hope its
better
than that liftbag they sell) I'm sure you'll come up with a good post of
lies to answer this with(you always do), but don't expect an answer from
me.


This should help get you going!
JT

  When do you plan to go diving on Sheridans boat again, you know, the
boat
that French guy who works for Beuchat and crews on, dived to around
260ft
on air and Thomas went to the camber last fall when you and Pina went on
it.

If I lie Trey just ask me to post the private emails I saved about it.
Go
away nobody likes lairs.






    At 06:27 AM 4/24/01 -0400, Trey wrote:

>JT, we got a copy of the video of that dive. I'm sending it to Saturday
>Night Live. Perhaps you could tell us all how the captain can hook a
wreck,
>buoy it and you can miss it? That takes first prize in the "don't know
your
>ass from a hole in the ground" contest, and you are the winner.
>
>Next time, ask somebody who knows how to do this and save yourself the
>embarrassment. Also, the next time you try to tell me I do not know
what I
>am doing, I will put excerpts from that tape on here for all to make up
>their own mind.
>
>Beyond the pale, but you had some people rolling on the floor at a
birthday
>party we had for several of our members where the tape showed up.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:19 PM
>To: vbtech@ci*.co*
>Cc: FLTechDiver@mikey.net; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: WEB UPDATE
>
>
>I have updated my web site www.capt-jt.com to include photos from the
>"Manuela" dive on April 14 just click on that in the photo Gallery and
I
>have started a miscellaneous photo page that has photos of the 490ft
dive,
>I will add some of the bottom photos if Cobb will send me a couple,
there
>are some other photos on that page from this past weekend also.
>
>Hope you enjoy!
>JT
>
>
>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the
>water"
>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>
>
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