This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0C71A.44092120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean: This is very typical in the business. I fought this when I was active as an instructor, but with little success. Bob Raimo also fought it, but much harder than I did -- same results. The last year I taught (1998), I used the agency standards (TDI at that time), and made additional requirements to account for Northeast diving conditions. I had to compete with instructors that offered $200 classes completed in one weekend, yet by standards these classes require 4-6 hours of classroom, a confined water session, and six dives! I had "brokers" who wanted to send me students for a week long Trimix class, but the students wanted to "come out of the class" as Trimix Instructors, just like your guy! I always told these folks that if you come to me, I will train you, if you just want a cert card, there are plenty of other places you can go. The few public responses (I only saw one) to your post, demonstrate that this practice is so common, that so many of us are de-sensitized to it, that hardly anyone will even say anything about it. How do we fix it? Get the training agencies to do what they say they do -- send eval forms at random to students (like PADI does), and review the responses. I think that few instructors would deliberately violate standards if they knew that an enforcement method was in place. And when they catch violators -- can them (that's "sack" them for you British divers), and notify the other agencies to make it harder for them to crossover. I am in Massachusetts. What area are you in? - Randy In a message dated 4/13/01 10:29:10 AM, AMEBIX13@ao*.co* writes: << Hello All, I have just heard something that personally disturbs me greatly. According to my father, there is going to be a new technical diving instructor in my area...now this in of it's self is not bad, however when he gave me the details of this I really began to become appauled. This certain instructor said that he would be getting his Trimix instructor card soon after spending A WEEK with a certain TDI instructor trainer. As if this isn't bad enough, During this week he will be completing the instructor courses for Extended range, Deco procedures, and advanced nitrox...He will also be getting HIS certifications for all of these courses, during the course of ths week. Thats right folks, from never having dived mix to teaching it in one quick week. I find it quite disturbing that you can go from Deco Procedures to Trimix instructor in ONE WEEK!!! It is this that is wrong with the diving world today. Well this motivates me to go down to florida to do some training with GUE even more! If anyone wants more information on this let me know and I will post it Take care and be careful who you train with. 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