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No, Adrian, it is your turn with the "reasoning". Just tell us what the
"reasoning" is that you were told. Obviously you did not make this
assininity up, and the reason I call you on it is I know exactly where it
comes from : IANTD. How do I know? It is so stupid it HAD to have come from
them.
From: adrian scothern [mailto:ady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:31 PM
To: Trey; George Irvine; techdiver-aquanaut.com; Chris Tibble
Subject: Re: Isolating Manifold Question
Well ,
We have been reading the oxford dictionary off classical
language this evening haven't we!,.
My reason is , the training i have received so far , if my be wrong, it
may be right , but this is what i know, there's no need for all the insults
& ridiculing, i was just participating in the list, if i am/was wrong ,
point me in the right direction,. insults are Not the way to gain respect ,
Even if you are one of the most knowledgeable diver's on the
planet!!!!!!!!!!..
A
----- Original Message -----
From: Trey
To: adrian scothern ; George Irvine ; techdiver-aquanaut.com ; Chris
Tibble
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question
Look, moron, I asked you why, and I am saying you can not come up with a
reason that makes sense enough to risk a gas mixing error. You and the rest
of the idiots have nothing but bullshit to show for your diving, and this is
one more example of why - you do not know why. I am so sick of idiots like
you who pump out nonsense and then cry like babies when you are confronted
about it. Put up or shut up. Tell us why this stupidity is done by "3/4 of
Europe". Show me where it makes sense. Obviously you can not do that.
Let me refresh your memory, asshole:
HI all,
as I'm new to the list , i will introduce myself,
My name is Ady scothern , i live in a Pub in Nottingham , U.K , and =
I'm very interested in extended range/tech diving and caving.
I've been diving for three years , and got involved in extended range =
last summer, i am currently a BSAC dive leader, IANTD adv. EANx . My =
reason for subscribing to the list are to gain knowledge about all =
aspects of advanced diving,.
-----Original Message-----
From: adrian scothern [mailto:ady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 6:38 AM
To: adrian scothern; George Irvine; techdiver-aquanaut.com; Chris
Tibble
Subject: Re: Isolating Manifold Question
Well, i've been diving with the ISO two half turns , since having a
twin set!, and proberley 3/4 OF Europe dive's The BullShit Paranoia Way, I'm
Sorry that i've No Idea about Diving OH DEMI GOD OF THE UNDERWATER WORLD
-- Original Message -----
From: George Irvine
To: adrian scothern ; Chris Tibble ; techdiver-aquanaut.com
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Isolating Manifold Question
And what bullshit paranoia do you attribute the "two half turns "
to? This is the kind of mindless crap that gets people killed. I will say
right here and now that you can come up with no reason to do something that
stupid that makes any sense what so ever. Give it a try.
----- Original Message -----
From: adrian scothern
To: Chris Tibble ; techdiver-aquanaut.com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Isolating Manifold Question
I have the ISO two half turn's on, and I think the key is to ,
Know your kit inside out, I've sat in the dark , in full kit for over 30
hours ,every new bit of kit , i go through the same process, and Do know my
current config Insideout , the wife finds this highly amusing if/when she
walks in . same goe's for inwater training dives .
ady
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Tibble
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:28 PM
Subject: Isolating Manifold Question
Just a quickie. I'm just about to buy my first twinset with a
manifold. I've dived twins before, independents because of fiscal reasons
(I'm a poor student!) What I need to know is this. Some of the people I have
talked to who dive manis only open their iso knob about 1/2 a turn, whilst
others open it all the way. Thinking about it I can see advantages and
disadvantages to both:
All the way
Adv: No risk of turning wrong way
Disadv: May get stuck if turned on all way
Have to turn it 3 turns (or whatever)
Part way
Adv: V fast way of isolating
Disadv: Can turn it the wrong way
Not having it open all the way may limit
equalisation across the manifold.
Now any or all of this may be unmitigated rubbish, but it's
just what I was thinking about last night.
Any comments/suggestions as to how best to do it?
As this is my first post, go easy on me - I'm still learning!
Many thanks,
Chris
--
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh
at that man.
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN =
class=3D050495622-15042001>No,=20
Adrian, it is your turn with the "reasoning". Just tell us what the =
"reasoning"=20
is that you were told. Obviously you did not make this assininity =
up, and=20
the reason I call you on it is I know exactly where it comes from : =
IANTD. =20
How do I know? It is so stupid it HAD to have come from=20
them.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D050495622-15042001></SPAN><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D050495622-15042001><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial=20
size=3D4> </FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D050495622-15042001></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D050495622-15042001> </SPAN><BR><B>From:</B> adrian
scothern =
[mailto:ady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 13, =
2001 5:31=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Trey; George Irvine; techdiver-aquanaut.com; Chris=20
Tibble<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Isolating Manifold
Question<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><STRONG>Well , =
</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><STRONG> =20
We have been =
reading=20
the oxford dictionary off classical language this evening haven't=20
we!,.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><STRONG>My reason is , the =
training i have=20
received so far , if my be wrong, it may be right , but this is what i =
know,=20
there's no need for all the insults & ridiculing, i was just=20
participating in the list, if i am/was wrong , point me in the =
right=20
direction,. insults are Not the way to gain respect , Even if you are =
one of=20
the most knowledgeable diver's on the=20
planet!!!!!!!!!!..</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial><STRONG>A</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*" title=3Dtrey@ne*.co*>Trey</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*"=20
title=3Dady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*>adrian scothern</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*" title=3Dkirvine@sa*.ne*>George =
Irvine</A>=20
; <A href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver-aquanaut.com</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:chris.tibble@bt*.co*"=20
title=3Dchris.tibble@bt*.co*>Chris Tibble</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 13,
2001 =
8:36=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Isolating =
Manifold=20
Question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN=20
class=3D790552619-13042001>Look, moron, I asked you why, and I am =
saying you=20
can not come up with a reason that makes sense enough to risk a gas =
mixing=20
error. You and the rest of the idiots have nothing but bullshit to =
show for=20
your diving, and this is one more example of why - you do not know=20
why. I am so sick of idiots like you who pump out nonsense and =
then=20
cry like babies when you are confronted about it. Put up or shut up. =
Tell us=20
why this stupidity is done by "3/4 of Europe". Show me where it =
makes sense.=20
Obviously you can not do that.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN=20
class=3D790552619-13042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN=20
class=3D790552619-13042001>Let me refresh your memory,=20
asshole:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN=20
class=3D790552619-13042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D4><SPAN =
class=3D790552619-13042001>HI=20
=
all,<BR> =
; =20
as I'm new to the list , i will introduce myself,<BR><BR>My name is =
Ady=20
scothern , i live in a Pub in Nottingham , U.K , and =
=3D<BR>I'm=20
very interested in extended range/tech diving and =
caving.<BR><BR>I've been=20
diving for three years , and got involved in extended range =
=3D<BR>last=20
summer, i am currently a BSAC dive leader, IANTD adv. EANx . My =
=3D<BR>reason=20
for subscribing to the list are to gain knowledge about all=20
=3D<BR>aspects of advanced diving,.<BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2><SPAN class=3D790552619-13042001><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D4> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D790552619-13042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D790552619-13042001> </SPAN>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> adrian scothern=20
[mailto:ady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April =
13, 2001=20
6:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> adrian scothern; George Irvine;=20
techdiver-aquanaut.com; Chris Tibble<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
Isolating=20
Manifold Question<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, i've been
diving =
with the ISO=20
two half turns , since having a twin set!, and proberley =
3/4 OF=20
Europe dive's The BullShit Paranoia Way, I'm Sorry that =
i've No=20
Idea about Diving OH DEMI GOD OF THE UNDERWATER WORLD =20
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*" =
title=3Dkirvine@sa*.ne*>George=20
Irvine</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*"=20
title=3Dady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*>adrian scothern</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:chris.tibble@bt*.co*"=20
title=3Dchris.tibble@bt*.co*>Chris Tibble</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver-aquanaut.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April
13, =
2001=20
11:19 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Isolating =
Manifold=20
Question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>And what bullshit paranoia do you =
attribute the "two=20
half turns " to? This is the kind of mindless crap that =
gets=20
people killed. I will say right here and now that you can come =
up with=20
no reason to do something that stupid that makes any sense =
what so=20
ever. Give it a try.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:ady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*"=20
title=3Dady@no*.fs*.co*.uk*>adrian scothern</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:chris.tibble@bt*.co*"=20
title=3Dchris.tibble@bt*.co*>Chris Tibble</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver-aquanaut.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday,
April =
12, 2001=20
7:04 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
Isolating Manifold=20
Question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have the ISO two =
half turn's on,=20
and I think the key is to , <STRONG>Know your kit inside=20
out</STRONG>, I've sat in the dark , in full kit for over 30 =
hours=20
,every new bit of kit , i go through the same process, and =
Do know=20
my current config Insideout , the wife finds =
this=20
highly amusing if/when she walks in . same goe's for inwater =
training dives .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ady</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; =
font-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:chris.tibble@bt*.co*"=20
title=3Dchris.tibble@bt*.co*>Chris Tibble</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, =
April 12,=20
2001 6:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
Isolating =
Manifold=20
Question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just a quickie. I'm just =
about to buy=20
my first twinset with a manifold. I've dived twins before, =
independents because of fiscal reasons (I'm a poor =
student!) What=20
I need to know is this. Some of the people I have talked =
to who=20
dive manis only open their iso knob about 1/2 a turn, =
whilst=20
others open it all the way. Thinking about it I can see =
advantages=20
and disadvantages to both:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the
way</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adv: =20
No risk of turning wrong =
way</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Disadv: =
May get=20
stuck if turned on all way</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
=20
Have to turn it 3 =
turns (or=20
whatever)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Part way</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adv: =20
V fast way of isolating</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Disadv: =
Can turn it=20
the wrong way </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; Not=20
having it open all the way may limit equalisation across =
the=20
manifold.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now any or all of this =
may be=20
unmitigated rubbish, but it's just what I was thinking =
about last=20
night.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any comments/suggestions =
as to how=20
best to do it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As this is my first post, =
go easy on=20
me - I'm still learning!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many
thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It takes a big man to =
cry, but it=20
takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.<BR></DIV>
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