Sorry - I wasn't clear. I didn't mean I couldn't achieve positive buoyancy -
when I'm wearing the rig its great. The problem is when I take it off
in-water to get in/out of the boat - then the rig won't float on its own.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jgale53@ho*.co* [mailto:jgale53@ho*.co*]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:25 AM
> To: Ian Puleston
> Cc: Metcalfe Kevin J COCA; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: Halcyon wing recommendation - postscript
>
>
> Wow...
>
> If you cannot achieve positive buoyancy on the surface with that
> wing something
> is seriously wrong and you should never have to pull the drop
> weights to do
> it.....you'll end up as one of those "surface drowning" statistics...
>
> JG
>
> ********************************************
>
> Ian Puleston wrote:
>
> > Just to add an addendum to this old thread - I received my new
> 45lb Pioneer
> > single-tank wing from Halcyon a couple of weeks ago, and after
> some shore
> > diving with it, took it for its first dive from an inflatable yesterday.
> >
> > First the good stuff - I don't seem to need as much weight with
> this set up
> > as I did with my old Zeagle ranger (presumably because less bulk == less
> > buoyancy). I managed to drop 5 lbs of lead which brings the total weight
> > (-ve buoyancy) of my rig down to about 30lbs.
> >
> > But the 45lb Pioneer wing would not float it - even fully
> inflated it would
> > sink. However, that's partially compensated for by Halcyon's great ACB
> > weighting system - at the end of the dive its really easy to
> pull the weight
> > pouches and throw them into the boat, and with the big handles there's
> > little chance of dropping them. Just gotta be careful at the
> start of the
> > dive.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > > I dive N. Cal and dive a lot from inflatables - that means
> that the wing
> > > needs to be able to float the scuba unit whilst getting in and
> > > out. I have a
> > > SS backplate that, for recreational diving, I use with a
> single HP 80 with
> > > an additional 18lbs of lead. With the single tank the total weight
> > > (actually -ve buoyancy) that the wing needs to support is
> approximately:
> > >       Lead            18lbs
> > >       Backplate       6lbs
> > >       Canister light  2lbs
> > >       Tank (full)     7lbs
> > >       2 x regulators  2lbs
> > >
> > >       Total:          35lbs
> > >
> > > So the 36lb Pioneer wing is barely (read not really) adequate,
> > > and I've just
> > > purchased a 45lb Pioneer wing.
> >
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