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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:56:54 +1100
From: Christian Gerzner <christiang@cc*.co*.au*>
To: Todd Sieber <todd@un*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, Brian&Kari Hunter <sasha@ka*.ne*>
Subject: Re: PADI QA - in response
Todd Sieber wrote:
> 
> Why didn't you call or write to PADI's QA department and issue a
> complaint about this instructor - obvious this instructor broke standards 
> (110 ft forone) depending on if this is a true story.

OK. Good point. However I have heard of lots of instances (note how I
put that, I have NO proof) that the QA Dept is, shall we say, not
exactly diligent in pursuing any complaints. Some examples came to
light on this thread.
(big snips)

> I agree that many instructors from all agencies should not be teaching
> and its a wonder they got certified in the first place and I do agree the
> standards for becoming an instructor are to low but that's how it is.

THAT'S HOW IT IS? So we have to ACCEPT it? REALLY?

No, we DON'T have to accept it, which is what this "bitching" is all
about. Or so I would have thought.

> Its our responsibility as divers to police ourselves and our fellow divers.

So what do you think this Forum is doing with this thread? Playing tiddlywinks?
 
> One more thing I've noticed - everyone who "has an opinion" doesn't 
> teach,but they think they know everything - go figure.  If you think you
> can do better, step up to the plate, become an instructor yourself and
> make a difference.  Otherwise, don't bother us.

Quite frankly, that is a stupid comment. There are lots of
exceptionally competent divers, and pilots, and philosophers, and ...
the list goes on, out there who are NOT teachers simply because they
are incompetent to be such. Conversely there are many exceptionally
competent teachers out there who will never make competent divers, and
pilots, and philosophers, and ... the list goes on.

This is precisely the point that some of the recreational Scuba
training agencies, amongst others, fail to realise. Its easy enough to
do, they do not understand, or perhaps fail to recognise, the
_concept_ of teaching.

The Agencies, some of them anyway, have tried to overcome this factor
by "teaching" in modules. That could also be called teaching "by
rote". Anyone want to ask Larry "Harris" Taylor PhD as just one
example about that kind of stuff? He teaches (note, he doesn't
instruct) Scuba and he also teaches at a US University. BTW, he
refuses to teach anyone Scuba who is less than 18 years of age.

I have seen many an Instructor and I have seen very few Scuba
Teachers. I like to think that I can tell a Scuba Teacher virtually
instantly and they're the ones that have my respect.

Me? Never been an Instructor, never will be. I fail in the Teaching
Dept 100%.

I'm sure that there are many like me. I wish some would recognise it.

Christian
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