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--0-1734575198-984607270=:55061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Scott Truth might be ugly and most of the times it hurts but still is the truth. As far as your IDC don�t worry been there done that and probably can teach you few tricks or two about IDC and IE. Quit long time ago. But please answer this Scott. How many dives does it take to become a PADI instructor? From start to finish. Once you are an instructor how do you get specialties? Like deep, wreck, cavern. Let me tell you that part, make up the dives and send in a bs letter about why you should teach that class and of course send in your cash TADA!!!! you are a deep specialty instructor. Now you can take people to 130 ft. I have seen instructors teaching cavern diving in Ohio quarry inside of a sunken semi trailer while PADI CD standing and watching. Instead of ripping his cert card. It sounds like you still believe in the IDC and IE process and PADI�s ability to educate instructors. And the ultimate questions are? How many students have you failed because they where not qualified? Later found out that they went to another instructor and got their certification any way? Question two. Would you want any PADI OW Instructor teaching your kids how to dive? My answer would be HELL NO! I would like to hear your honest answer. Cheers Adam ScottBonis@ao*.co* wrote: Hi Adam, You sound like the kind of an individual I would fail out of an IDC for trying to cover up your lack of self confidence. Don't try to build yourself up by trying to rip others down. It doesn't work. And of course the cursing adds immeasurably to my respect for you. Take care and dive safe, Scott Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and scramble up out of the pit. In a message dated 3/14/01 11:24:21 AM, deepwrecks@ya*.co* writes: << Yes scuba industry and diving equipment came long ways from 1970���s. So did the training agencies with their moron instructors and lack of training standards. You are a typical PADI brainless propaganda puppet. I don���t give a shit if you are MSDT. It does not impress me. It means shit. Question is do you have the necessary skills and ability to teach diving? This is where we have a difference off opinion. I stand against the agencies bull shit to lower the standards to produce instructors and impressive sounding worthless titles. Pass these morons regardless of their skills and teaching ability to gain market share. Typical response from a PADI instrictor ���I am a PADI MSDT Instructor���. Un fortunately for you, your MSDT means shit to people who have been around diving. Thanks to your moron colleagues and your PADI Agency. I have been involved with many IE���s and IDC���s. In the last few years I have seen so many morons pass IE regardless of their ability it is sad. Think what PADI teaches you during IDC. They drill you with these statements ���By the end of this session������ Promote continuing education for your next class. ���You all did a great job however���..��� Do these statements ring a bell? It is a joke. You can read from your slate during pool, your lectures are written by the CD and handed for your to read. You get to see all the written exams during IDC. Every one is passed unless they do something real stupid. If one fails, no worries they will pass on the second time around. After that, pay and get a new title. May be they should go back to macho/militaristic training see how many fat slob moron instructors would pass the test? Wakeup man these dumb morons are teaching life saving skills. What is scarier now they are going to teach tech diving. Here is another dumb morons story this guy who barely made it trough the IE on his second time. (I would not dive with this idiot in the pool let alone open water) Then he went to Our World Under Water in Chicago and attended a seminar became an IANTD Nitrox instructor. He had no clue what Nitrox was. Then he sends $10 or 15 to TDI by mail and become a TDI Nitrox instructor. No skills, no clue, but impressive resume. There are great instructors out there cross all training agencies. To me this is the ultimate insult to all good instructors regardless of agency who worked hard on their skills and material, care about quality and safety of their students. I think this subject is beaten few times. My worry is these morons barely have the ability to teach sport diving now they are teaching tech-diving and killing more people in the process. Forcing the good government to step in and regulate diving or gases we use. It all boils down to greed morons and money!!! Cheers Adam >> --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! --0-1734575198-984607270=:55061 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Scott</SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Truth might be ugly and most of the times it hurts but still is the truth. As far as your IDC don�t worry been there done that and probably can teach you few tricks or two about IDC and IE. Quit long time ago. But please answer this Scott. How many dives does it take to become a PADI instructor? From start to finish. Once you are an instructor how do you get specialties? Like deep, wreck, cavern. Let me tell you that part, make up the dives and send in a bs letter about why you should teach that class and of course send in your cash TADA!!!! you are a deep specialty instructor. Now you can take people to 130 ft. I have seen instructors teaching cavern diving in Ohio quarry inside of a sunken semi trailer while PADI CD standing and watching. Instead of ripping his cert card. It sounds like you still believe in the IDC and IE process and PADI�s ability to educate instructors. And the ultimate questions are? <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How many students have you failed because they where not qualified? Later found out that they went to another instructor and got their certification any way? Question two. Would you want any PADI OW Instructor teaching your kids how to dive? My answer would be HELL NO! I would like to hear your honest answer. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Cheers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Adam</SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal> <B><I>ScottBonis@ao*.co*</I></B> wrote: <BR>Hi Adam,<BR><BR>You sound like the kind of an individual I would fail out of an IDC for <BR>trying to cover up your lack of self confidence.<BR><BR>Don't try to build yourself up by trying to rip others down. It doesn't <BR>work. And of course the cursing adds immeasurably to my respect for you.<BR><BR>Take care and dive safe, Scott<BR><BR>Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and <BR>scramble up out of the pit.<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 3/14/01 11:24:21 AM, deepwrecks@ya*.co* writes:<BR><BR><< Yes scuba industry and diving equipment came long ways from 1970���s. So <BR>did the training agencies with their moron instructors and lack of training <BR>standards. You are a typical PADI brainless propaganda puppet. I don���t give <BR>a shit if you are MSDT. It does not impress me. It means shit. Question is do <BR>you have the necessary skills and ability to teach diving? This is where we <BR>have a difference off opinion. I stand against the agencies bull shit to <BR>lower the standards to produce instructors and impressive sounding worthless <BR>titles. Pass these morons regardless of their skills and teaching ability to <BR>gain market share. Typical response from a PADI instrictor ���I am a PADI MSDT <BR>Instructor���. Un fortunately for you, your MSDT means shit to people who have <BR>been around diving. Thanks to your moron colleagues and your PADI Agency. I <BR>have been involved with many IE���s and IDC���s. In the last few years I have <BR>seen so many morons pass IE regardless of their ability it is sad. Think what <BR>PADI teaches you during IDC. They drill you with these statements ���By the end <BR>of this session������ Promote continuing education for your next class. ���You all <BR>did a great job however���..��� Do these statements ring a bell? It is a joke. <BR>You can read from your slate during pool, your lectures are written by the CD <BR>and handed for your to read. You get to see all the written exams during IDC. <BR>Every one is passed unless they do something real stupid. If one fails, no <BR>worries they will pass on the second time around. After that, pay and get a <BR>new title. May be they should go back to macho/militaristic training see how <BR>many fat slob moron instructors would pass the test? Wakeup man these dumb <BR>morons are teaching life saving skills. What is scarier now they are going to <BR>teach tech diving. Here is another dumb morons story this guy who barely made <BR>it trough the IE on his second time. (I would not dive with this idiot in the <BR>pool let alone open water) Then he went to Our World Under Water in Chicago <BR>and attended a seminar became an IANTD Nitrox instructor. He had no clue what <BR>Nitrox was. Then he sends $10 or 15 to TDI by mail and become a TDI Nitrox <BR>instructor. No skills, no clue, but impressive resume. There are great <BR>instructors out there cross all training agencies. To me this is the ultimate <BR>insult to all good instructors regardless of agency who worked hard on their <BR>skills and material, care about quality and safety of their students. I think <BR>this subject is beaten few times. My worry is these morons barely have the <BR>ability to teach sport diving now they are teaching tech-diving and killing <BR>more people in the process. Forcing the good government to step in and <BR>regulate diving or gases we use. It all boils down to greed morons and <BR>money!!!<BR>Cheers<BR><BR>Adam >></P><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br> <a href=http://auctions.yahoo.com>Yahoo! Auctions</a> - Buy the things you want at great prices! --0-1734575198-984607270=:55061-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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