JT, you are wrong about the death part. Mine has never killed anyone, and
neither has the old version. You will believe what you want to believe, but
for me, I no longer do that any other way. Why, you ask?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Deep wreck in FL


> Hi George
> As there is always some truth and logic to your post, usually twisted but
> there, I will answer this one only and then no more. Yes, a RB would be
the
> best gear for that dive. I do not use one because there is not one
> available that cannot be linked to a death as the most likely cause. Until
> one is made that is to my liking I don't want one, I'll let others buy
them
> and wait to see what happens, I feel very comfortable on OC and believe in
> most problems I can solve on them, but out of gas is dead and at best it
is
> a risk. So all on this list do not try and do what I have just done. I
have
> no depth preoccupation, it is a dive addiction with adventure to it. Just
> so everyone understands that dive was at the extreme mental end of what I
> think I can take at this time, very few will ever know what a free descent
> to that depth feels like.
> Thanks for the offer to work with your Dad and Chris, I already know how
to
> weld and that is real work, no fun involved. Just like you, I have no
> interest in real work. I have too much fun to let work get in my way.
>
> Thanks for the concern
> JT
>
>
>
>
>
>    At 06:29 AM 3/5/01 -0500, Trey wrote:
>
> >JT, don't press the bet with the wrong gear. Your life is worth more than
> >that. Been there, done that. Take it or leave it.
> >
> >This depth preoccupation is a bad thing. Learn to weld and I can get you
in
> >on some 1000 foot dives with my dad's operation in the Gulf, or see Chris
> >Werner of WKPP - he works for Schlumberger as a geologist on offshore
rigs -
> >he can get you some deep dives. Bring your tools.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> >Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:47 AM
> >To: vbtech@ci*.co*
> >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Subject: RE: Deep wreck in FL
> >
> >
> >I just got home, a bit tired from the drive. Will try to write my report
> >later today after some sleep. In it you will find we covered everything
you
> >said here and more, we had every local expert we needed/wanted available
to
> >pull it off safely and we did.
> >
> >At 07:03 AM 3/3/01 -0500, Trey wrote:
> >
> > >JT, these things are hard to hit due to the top current which usually
only
> > >extends down 150 feet, but can be up to 3 knots. We use 130 pound test
> > >dacron with a monel leader and a giant grouper ball to mark the wreck,
and
> > >then put a freediving float at the other end and scooter from the float
> > >down. Fisherman can put a bait on an exact spot in any depth here or
they
> > >don't catch.
> > >
> > >Trying to drift these things is a nightmare due to guessing the depth
of
> >the
> > >current and the stress of a fast ascent. We do not do it that way
unless it
> > >is a must, and then we back off after the first 150 feet and go slow,
but
> > >that 2 or three minutes has to be exactly gauged relative to the drift.
We
> > >use a GPS handheld and check it several times before dropping for real
when
> > >we do it that way.
> > >
> > >500 foot wreck dives need to be done with a rebreather, not open
circuit.
> > >We've done some 450's open, but it was pain in the ass gas wise and if
we
> > >had got hung up, it would be all over. With even my rb, which is semi
> > >closed, I turn double 80's into 1600 cubic feet of gas.
> > >
> > >JJ and I have decided not to do this shit on oc anymore . Sure, we
pulled
> >it
> > >off for years on wreck and cave, and JJ did penetration filming dives
on
> >the
> > >Britannic at 400 odd feet, but then Dale Earnhardt is my age and had a
half
> > >lap to go at Daytona. No thanks, my dick is already big enough.
> > >
> > >You guys are asking for that last half lap with this kind of thing. I
know
> > >it is real adventurous, but it is also not too smart. Save your money
and
> > >buy a rebreather. I do not want to read about your dead ass.
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > >Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:00 PM
> > >To: vbtech@ci*.co*
> > >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > >Subject: Deep wreck in FL
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi All
> > >Just a short note to let everyone who knew about the unknown wreck that
> > >Rick Atkins and myself were going to dive turned out safe with the
support
> > >of the VBtech team. The wreck which sits in nearly 500fsw was too small
for
> > >the drop, we dropped up current of the wreck which has a small profile.
A
> > >small object to hit at that extreme depth in strong current . We spent
8
> > >mins at 490ft looking for the wreck, we had missed it. I will give a
> > >complete report when I get back home.
> > >
> > >JT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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