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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C0B3D6.0341EFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Skip, Halcyon also includes a course in how to use them and that = involves dives. Their intended market is their yacht customers. The guys = who come to me already know scooters, like you said, or they would not = be calling me or even know to call me, and those are usually referred by = somebody else who has one. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Skip MacElhannon=20 To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:17 AM Subject: Fwd: Re: Halcyon vs Diverite equipment Greg, the half truths are all yours.=20 If you want the whole truth; when you buy a Gavin from Halcyon they do = make a profit on the sale. Just like you they have to earn a living and = pay the rent every month. Also, they do add extras: charger, manual, = shipping/storage case, spare prop blades, etc. and you get support from = the dealer. From George you get a scooter, period. You have to supply your own = charger, rack, etc. since George assumes (and rightly so) that if you = are buying a scooter directly from him you know what you are doing and = can do the details on your own. Get your facts straight before you post. At 06:40 AM 3/23/01 -0500, you wrote: HALF TRUTHS - George Why does is cost 4800.00 for a Gavin Scooter from Halycon, And George charges 3500.00. Just like you said george, because they sell extras. The extra phone call to you and the extra shipping label to send it = from them to the customer. That's effective marketing JJ. Greg Z. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*> To: "gzambeck" <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>; "David and Judith Andrews" <tandrews@ne*.ne*>; "Skip MacElhannon" <skipmac@co*.co*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: RE: Halcyon vs Diverite equipment > Greg, you are one of the worst in the game. You are a dangerous = idiot who > deals in bullshit only. You have nothing that anyone wants, nothing > intelligent to say, no information, no knowledge, no clue about = anything > that in any way would be used by intelligent people to do anything = in diving > or elsewhere in life. > > You get on here with lies , innuendo, misinformation, half truths, = rumor, > gossip and stupidity too ridiculous to even entertain and then = expect to be > received as a big hero of the strokes. Yes, you are a stroke and yes = , we > all can see it, and yes I am sure the disenfranchised deep air crowd = and > other low life's of diving probably write you privately and = celebrate your > willingness to be such a public imbecile. What I would really like everyone > to see is some of the really dumb things you feel so comfortable trafficking > in over on the IANTD list, where only a piece of shit like you would = be > tolerated. You are not going to get anything here but my boot in = your stupid > ass. > > Now tell us all which regulator you like bet for deep air diving, = and about > all the great deep air dives you do, and maybe why that is such a = good idea, > or why a fat slob like you should be treated as other than a = criminally > stupid dangerous idiot. Any more dead students lately, Greg? Anyone = lese get > killed emulating your fat ass lately? Anyone else diving air under = the ice > with you, or are you becoming an anachronism everywhere and so = obviously the > Village Idiot? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gzambeck [mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:12 PM > To: Trey; David and Judith Andrews; Skip MacElhannon > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: Halcyon vs Diverite equipment > > > George there you go getting your blood pressure up! > > Greg Z > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*> > To: "gzambeck" <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>; "David and Judith Andrews" > <tandrews@ne*.ne*>; "Skip MacElhannon" <skipmac@co*.co*> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 6:57 AM > Subject: RE: Halcyon vs Diverite equipment > > > > Zambeck, I see you have stuck your stupid head up again. You have = no such > > information, and you know nothing about dive gear because you do = not have > > any that anyone with a working brain would own. > > > > Why don't you reproduce that post you put on the IANTD list about = you love > > of Poseidon shower head regs "because they do so well for you deep = air > > diving". > > > > You are one of the worst strokes in diving, and you have the track record > to > > prove it. Nothing that come out of your mouth is anything but = stupid , > > dangerous, misinformation , bullshit and nonsense. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gzambeck [mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*] > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 9:58 AM > > To: David and Judith Andrews; Skip MacElhannon > > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > > Subject: Re: Halcyon vs Diverite equipment > > > > > > What do you know about Apexs reg's having first stage spring = failures? > > > > Greg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Skip MacElhannon" <skipmac@co*.co*> > > To: "David and Judith Andrews" <tandrews@ne*.ne*> > > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:44 PM > > Subject: Halcyon vs Diverite equipment > > > > > > > First, you can mail order any of the Halcyon Gear from their = shop in > > > FL. Check the website for 800 numbers. I only know the local # = 904 > > 454-0811. > > > > > > I have a set of Diverite wings and 2 sets of Halcyon wings. The = DR > wings > > > are ok and they did a free repair after 3 years of use, but when = you > > > compare them to the Halcyons side-by-side it is very obvious = that the > > > Halcyons are made from better materials and are better put = together . > Buy > > > the Halcyons. > > > > > > I have never heard anything good about their regulator. This = subject > has > > > been covered extensively on the forums recently. Why not get the Apeks? > > I > > > also have had very good luck with the Oceanic Piston with the = Delta II > > > second stage. I have one that I have used for years and the only > > > maintenance I have done is a periodic cleaning (only required = because I > > use > > > it on my O2 tank that sometimes gets dropped in a silty cave = bottom and > > > picks up some crude). > > > > > > I also have a Diverite Al backplate and a Halcyon SS backplate. = I have > > had > > > no problems with the DR Al backplate as long as you get it with = the > > > correct, one piece harness. However, again, the DR backplate I = have is > > > several years old and I have not looked at the newer units. > > > > > > > > > Skip > > > > > > > > > > > > At 03:20 AM 3/17/01 -0600, you wrote: > > > >does any one have experience with the dive rite rg 1200 = regulator?? how > > > >about the backplate/wings?? i havent been able to find a = halcyon dealer > > in > > > >iowa. any help?? > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C0B3D6.0341EFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Skip, Halcyon also includes a course in how to use = them and=20 that involves dives. Their intended market is their yacht = customers. The=20 guys who come to me already know scooters, like you said, or they would = not be=20 calling me or even know to call me, and those are usually referred by = somebody=20 else who has one.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:skipmac@co*.co*" = title=3Dskipmac@co*.co*>Skip=20 MacElhannon</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20 title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 23, 2001 = 11:17=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fwd: Re: Halcyon vs = Diverite=20 equipment</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Greg, the half truths are all yours. <BR><BR>If you = want the=20 whole truth; when you buy a Gavin from Halcyon they do make a profit = on the=20 sale. Just like you they have to earn a living and pay the rent every = month.=20 Also, they do add extras: charger, manual, shipping/storage case, = spare prop=20 blades, etc. and you get support from the dealer.<BR><BR>From George = you get a=20 scooter, period. You have to supply your own charger, rack, etc. since = George=20 assumes (and rightly so) that if you are buying a scooter directly = from him=20 you know what you are doing and can do the details on your = own.<BR><BR>Get=20 your facts straight before you post.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>At 06:40 AM = 3/23/01=20 -0500, you wrote:<BR><BR>HALF TRUTHS - George<BR>Why does is cost = 4800.00 for=20 a Gavin Scooter from Halycon, And George<BR>charges 3500.00.<BR>Just = like you=20 said george, because they sell extras.<BR>The extra phone call to you = and the=20 extra shipping label to send it from<BR>them to the = customer.<BR><BR>That's=20 effective marketing JJ.<BR><BR>Greg Z.<BR>----- Original Message=20 -----<BR>From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*><BR>To: "gzambeck"=20 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>; "David and Judith=20 Andrews"<BR><tandrews@ne*.ne*>; "Skip MacElhannon"=20 <skipmac@co*.co*><BR>Cc: = <techdiver@aquanaut.com><BR>Sent:=20 Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:19 PM<BR>Subject: RE: Halcyon vs Diverite=20 equipment<BR><BR><BR>> Greg, you are one of the worst in the game. = You are=20 a dangerous idiot who<BR>> deals in bullshit only. You have nothing = that=20 anyone wants, nothing<BR>> intelligent to say, no information, no=20 knowledge, no clue about anything<BR>> that in any way would be = used by=20 intelligent people to do anything in<BR>diving<BR>> or elsewhere in = life.<BR>><BR>> You get on here with lies , innuendo, = misinformation,=20 half truths, rumor,<BR>> gossip and stupidity too ridiculous to = even=20 entertain and then expect to<BR>be<BR>> received as a big hero of = the=20 strokes. Yes, you are a stroke and yes , we<BR>> all can see it, = and yes I=20 am sure the disenfranchised deep air crowd and<BR>> other low = life's of=20 diving probably write you privately and celebrate your<BR>> = willingness to=20 be such a public imbecile. What I would really = like<BR>everyone<BR>> to see=20 is some of the really dumb things you feel so=20 comfortable<BR>trafficking<BR>> in over on the IANTD list, where = only a=20 piece of shit like you would be<BR>> tolerated. You are not going = to get=20 anything here but my boot in your<BR>stupid<BR>> = ass.<BR>><BR>> Now=20 tell us all which regulator you like bet for deep air diving,=20 and<BR>about<BR>> all the great deep air dives you do, and maybe = why that=20 is such a good<BR>idea,<BR>> or why a fat slob like you should be = treated=20 as other than a criminally<BR>> stupid dangerous idiot. Any more = dead=20 students lately, Greg? Anyone lese<BR>get<BR>> killed emulating = your fat=20 ass lately? Anyone else diving air under the ice<BR>> with you, or = are you=20 becoming an anachronism everywhere and so obviously<BR>the<BR>> = Village=20 Idiot?<BR>><BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> = From:=20 gzambeck [<A href=3D"mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*" = eudora=3D"autourl"><FONT=20 = color=3D#0000ff><U>mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*</A></FONT></U>]<BR>&g t; = Sent:=20 Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:12 PM<BR>> To: Trey; David and Judith = Andrews;=20 Skip MacElhannon<BR>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR>> Subject: = Re:=20 Halcyon vs Diverite equipment<BR>><BR>><BR>> George there you = go=20 getting your blood pressure up!<BR>><BR>> Greg Z<BR>> ----- = Original=20 Message -----<BR>> From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*><BR>> To: = "gzambeck" <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>; "David and Judith = Andrews"<BR>>=20 <tandrews@ne*.ne*>; "Skip MacElhannon"=20 <skipmac@co*.co*><BR>> Cc:=20 <techdiver@aquanaut.com><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 = 6:57=20 AM<BR>> Subject: RE: Halcyon vs Diverite = equipment<BR>><BR>><BR>>=20 > Zambeck, I see you have stuck your stupid head up again. You have = no<BR>such<BR>> > information, and you know nothing about dive = gear=20 because you do not<BR>have<BR>> > any that anyone with a working = brain=20 would own.<BR>> ><BR>> > Why don't you reproduce that post = you put=20 on the IANTD list about you<BR>love<BR>> > of Poseidon shower = head regs=20 "because they do so well for you deep air<BR>> > = diving".<BR>>=20 ><BR>> > You are one of the worst strokes in diving, and you = have the=20 track<BR>record<BR>> to<BR>> > prove it. Nothing that come = out of=20 your mouth is anything but stupid ,<BR>> > dangerous, = misinformation ,=20 bullshit and nonsense.<BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original=20 Message-----<BR>> > From: gzambeck [<A=20 href=3D"mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*" eudora=3D"autourl"><FONT=20 = color=3D#0000ff><U>mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*</A></FONT></U>]<BR>&g t; = >=20 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 9:58 AM<BR>> > To: David and Judith = Andrews; Skip MacElhannon<BR>> > Cc: = techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR>> >=20 Subject: Re: Halcyon vs Diverite equipment<BR>> ><BR>> = ><BR>>=20 > What do you know about Apexs reg's having first stage spring=20 failures?<BR>> ><BR>> > Greg<BR>> > ----- Original = Message=20 -----<BR>> > From: "Skip MacElhannon"=20 <skipmac@co*.co*><BR>> > To: "David and Judith = Andrews"=20 <tandrews@ne*.ne*><BR>> > Cc:=20 <techdiver@aquanaut.com><BR>> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, = 2001=20 9:44 PM<BR>> > Subject: Halcyon vs Diverite equipment<BR>>=20 ><BR>> ><BR>> > > First, you can mail order any of = the=20 Halcyon Gear from their shop in<BR>> > > FL. Check the = website for=20 800 numbers. I only know the local # 904<BR>> > = 454-0811.<BR>> >=20 ><BR>> > > I have a set of Diverite wings and 2 sets of = Halcyon=20 wings. The DR<BR>> wings<BR>> > > are ok and they did a = free=20 repair after 3 years of use, but when you<BR>> > > compare = them to=20 the Halcyons side-by-side it is very obvious that the<BR>> > = >=20 Halcyons are made from better materials and are better put together = ..<BR>>=20 Buy<BR>> > > the Halcyons.<BR>> > ><BR>> > = > I have=20 never heard anything good about their regulator. This subject<BR>>=20 has<BR>> > > been covered extensively on the forums recently. = Why not=20 get the<BR>Apeks?<BR>> > I<BR>> > > also have had very = good=20 luck with the Oceanic Piston with the Delta II<BR>> > > = second stage.=20 I have one that I have used for years and the only<BR>> > >=20 maintenance I have done is a periodic cleaning (only required=20 because<BR>I<BR>> > use<BR>> > > it on my O2 tank that=20 sometimes gets dropped in a silty cave bottom<BR>and<BR>> > > = picks=20 up some crude).<BR>> > ><BR>> > > I also have a = Diverite Al=20 backplate and a Halcyon SS backplate. I<BR>have<BR>> > = had<BR>> >=20 > no problems with the DR Al backplate as long as you get it with=20 the<BR>> > > correct, one piece harness. However, again, the = DR=20 backplate I have<BR>is<BR>> > > several years old and I have = not=20 looked at the newer units.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> = >=20 > Skip<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > = ><BR>> >=20 > At 03:20 AM 3/17/01 -0600, you wrote:<BR>> > > >does = any one=20 have experience with the dive rite rg 1200 regulator??<BR>how<BR>> = >=20 > >about the backplate/wings?? i havent been able to find a=20 halcyon<BR>dealer<BR>> > in<BR>> > > >iowa. any=20 help??<BR>> > ><BR>> > > --<BR>> > > Send = mail for=20 the `techdiver' mailing list to<BR>`techdiver@aquanaut.com'.<BR>> = > >=20 Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests=20 to<BR>`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.<BR>> ><BR>> > = --<BR>>=20 > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to=20 `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.<BR>> > Send subscribe/unsubscribe = requests to=20 `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.<BR>> ><BR>> > --<BR>> = >=20 Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to=20 `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.<BR>> > Send subscribe/unsubscribe = requests to=20 = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.<BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>&l t;/BODY>= </HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C0B3D6.0341EFC0-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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