Kevin

So what is the purpose of your post. If you have nothing reasonable (good or
bad) to say about an activity then do not waste the bandwidth.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: listowner@ci*.co* [mailto:listowner@ci*.co*]On
Behalf Of Kevin Connell
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 3:08 PM
To: trey@ne*.co*; vbtech@ci*.co*; captjt@mi*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Deep wreck in FL


JT, Do you drive a car? Ride in an airplane?  I'm not even sure you can
walk, because legs have been known to kill people.


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:20:41 -0500

>Hi George
>As there is always some truth and logic to your post, usually twisted but
>there, I will answer this one only and then no more. Yes, a RB would be the
>best gear for that dive. I do not use one because there is not one
>available that cannot be linked to a death as the most likely cause. Until
>one is made that is to my liking I don't want one, I'll let others buy them
>and wait to see what happens, I feel very comfortable on OC and believe in
>most problems I can solve on them, but out of gas is dead and at best it is
>a risk. So all on this list do not try and do what I have just done. I have
>no depth preoccupation, it is a dive addiction with adventure to it. Just
>so everyone understands that dive was at the extreme mental end of what I
>think I can take at this time, very few will ever know what a free descent
>to that depth feels like.
>Thanks for the offer to work with your Dad and Chris, I already know how to
>weld and that is real work, no fun involved. Just like you, I have no
>interest in real work. I have too much fun to let work get in my way.
>
>Thanks for the concern
>JT
>
>
>
>
>
>   At 06:29 AM 3/5/01 -0500, Trey wrote:
>
>>JT, don't press the bet with the wrong gear. Your life is worth more than
>>that. Been there, done that. Take it or leave it.
>>
>>This depth preoccupation is a bad thing. Learn to weld and I can get you
in
>>on some 1000 foot dives with my dad's operation in the Gulf, or see Chris
>>Werner of WKPP - he works for Schlumberger as a geologist on offshore
rigs -
>>he can get you some deep dives. Bring your tools.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>>Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:47 AM
>>To: vbtech@ci*.co*
>>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>Subject: RE: Deep wreck in FL
>>
>>
>>I just got home, a bit tired from the drive. Will try to write my report
>>later today after some sleep. In it you will find we covered everything
you
>>said here and more, we had every local expert we needed/wanted available
to
>>pull it off safely and we did.
>>
>>At 07:03 AM 3/3/01 -0500, Trey wrote:
>>
>> >JT, these things are hard to hit due to the top current which usually
only
>> >extends down 150 feet, but can be up to 3 knots. We use 130 pound test
>> >dacron with a monel leader and a giant grouper ball to mark the wreck,
and
>> >then put a freediving float at the other end and scooter from the float
>> >down. Fisherman can put a bait on an exact spot in any depth here or
they
>> >don't catch.
>> >
>> >Trying to drift these things is a nightmare due to guessing the depth of
>>the
>> >current and the stress of a fast ascent. We do not do it that way unless
it
>> >is a must, and then we back off after the first 150 feet and go slow,
but
>> >that 2 or three minutes has to be exactly gauged relative to the drift.
We
>> >use a GPS handheld and check it several times before dropping for real
when
>> >we do it that way.
>> >
>> >500 foot wreck dives need to be done with a rebreather, not open
circuit.
>> >We've done some 450's open, but it was pain in the ass gas wise and if
we
>> >had got hung up, it would be all over. With even my rb, which is semi
>> >closed, I turn double 80's into 1600 cubic feet of gas.
>> >
>> >JJ and I have decided not to do this shit on oc anymore . Sure, we
pulled
>>it
>> >off for years on wreck and cave, and JJ did penetration filming dives on
>>the
>> >Britannic at 400 odd feet, but then Dale Earnhardt is my age and had a
half
>> >lap to go at Daytona. No thanks, my dick is already big enough.
>> >
>> >You guys are asking for that last half lap with this kind of thing. I
know
>> >it is real adventurous, but it is also not too smart. Save your money
and
>> >buy a rebreather. I do not want to read about your dead ass.
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>> >Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:00 PM
>> >To: vbtech@ci*.co*
>> >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> >Subject: Deep wreck in FL
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi All
>> >Just a short note to let everyone who knew about the unknown wreck that
>> >Rick Atkins and myself were going to dive turned out safe with the
support
>> >of the VBtech team. The wreck which sits in nearly 500fsw was too small
for
>> >the drop, we dropped up current of the wreck which has a small profile.
A
>> >small object to hit at that extreme depth in strong current . We spent 8
>> >mins at 490ft looking for the wreck, we had missed it. I will give a
>> >complete report when I get back home.
>> >
>> >JT
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the
>>water"
>>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
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