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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:20:41 -0500
To: trey@ne*.co* (Trey), <vbtech@ci*.co*>
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: RE: Deep wreck in FL
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Hi George
As there is always some truth and logic to your post, usually twisted but 
there, I will answer this one only and then no more. Yes, a RB would be the 
best gear for that dive. I do not use one because there is not one 
available that cannot be linked to a death as the most likely cause. Until 
one is made that is to my liking I don't want one, I'll let others buy them 
and wait to see what happens, I feel very comfortable on OC and believe in 
most problems I can solve on them, but out of gas is dead and at best it is 
a risk. So all on this list do not try and do what I have just done. I have 
no depth preoccupation, it is a dive addiction with adventure to it. Just 
so everyone understands that dive was at the extreme mental end of what I 
think I can take at this time, very few will ever know what a free descent 
to that depth feels like.
Thanks for the offer to work with your Dad and Chris, I already know how to 
weld and that is real work, no fun involved. Just like you, I have no 
interest in real work. I have too much fun to let work get in my way.

Thanks for the concern
JT





   At 06:29 AM 3/5/01 -0500, Trey wrote:

>JT, don't press the bet with the wrong gear. Your life is worth more than
>that. Been there, done that. Take it or leave it.
>
>This depth preoccupation is a bad thing. Learn to weld and I can get you in
>on some 1000 foot dives with my dad's operation in the Gulf, or see Chris
>Werner of WKPP - he works for Schlumberger as a geologist on offshore rigs -
>he can get you some deep dives. Bring your tools.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:47 AM
>To: vbtech@ci*.co*
>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: RE: Deep wreck in FL
>
>
>I just got home, a bit tired from the drive. Will try to write my report
>later today after some sleep. In it you will find we covered everything you
>said here and more, we had every local expert we needed/wanted available to
>pull it off safely and we did.
>
>At 07:03 AM 3/3/01 -0500, Trey wrote:
>
> >JT, these things are hard to hit due to the top current which usually only
> >extends down 150 feet, but can be up to 3 knots. We use 130 pound test
> >dacron with a monel leader and a giant grouper ball to mark the wreck, and
> >then put a freediving float at the other end and scooter from the float
> >down. Fisherman can put a bait on an exact spot in any depth here or they
> >don't catch.
> >
> >Trying to drift these things is a nightmare due to guessing the depth of
>the
> >current and the stress of a fast ascent. We do not do it that way unless it
> >is a must, and then we back off after the first 150 feet and go slow, but
> >that 2 or three minutes has to be exactly gauged relative to the drift. We
> >use a GPS handheld and check it several times before dropping for real when
> >we do it that way.
> >
> >500 foot wreck dives need to be done with a rebreather, not open circuit.
> >We've done some 450's open, but it was pain in the ass gas wise and if we
> >had got hung up, it would be all over. With even my rb, which is semi
> >closed, I turn double 80's into 1600 cubic feet of gas.
> >
> >JJ and I have decided not to do this shit on oc anymore . Sure, we pulled
>it
> >off for years on wreck and cave, and JJ did penetration filming dives on
>the
> >Britannic at 400 odd feet, but then Dale Earnhardt is my age and had a half
> >lap to go at Daytona. No thanks, my dick is already big enough.
> >
> >You guys are asking for that last half lap with this kind of thing. I know
> >it is real adventurous, but it is also not too smart. Save your money and
> >buy a rebreather. I do not want to read about your dead ass.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> >Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:00 PM
> >To: vbtech@ci*.co*
> >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Subject: Deep wreck in FL
> >
> >
> >Hi All
> >Just a short note to let everyone who knew about the unknown wreck that
> >Rick Atkins and myself were going to dive turned out safe with the support
> >of the VBtech team. The wreck which sits in nearly 500fsw was too small for
> >the drop, we dropped up current of the wreck which has a small profile. A
> >small object to hit at that extreme depth in strong current . We spent 8
> >mins at 490ft looking for the wreck, we had missed it. I will give a
> >complete report when I get back home.
> >
> >JT
> >
> >
> >
> >
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