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From: "Walter Jaccard" <wjaccard@mi*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: DUI CLX VS TLS
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:21:45 -0800
The plastic zipper pulls on the dui zippers also break off leaving you with
a zipper you can't open or close.

Walter


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Foster" <nick@fi*.co*>
To: "David E. Smith" <dsmith218@ho*.co*>; <billy@v3*.co*.au*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: DUI CLX VS TLS


> When a zipper travels flat it does not have a problem, the issue with the
> DUI pockets is they try to bend that "beefy" zipper around a corner. this
is
> a high wear area and the teeth are always fighting each other and at some
> point the performance will start to deteriorate. finally leaving you with
a
> zipper that appears to "jam"
> at that point it doesnt matter how much you clean it. the thing is worn
out.
>
>                                  nick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David E. Smith <dsmith218@ho*.co*>
> To: <billy@v3*.co*.au*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 9:18 PM
> Subject: RE: DUI CLX VS TLS
>
>
> > The zipper on my DUI pockets (as well as dry zipper outer) is fairly
> > "beefy"(has large teeth).  It would certainly take more than a grain of
> sand
> > to jam it up.  Has anyone out there had THIS type of zipper jam on them?
> I
> > know several people using them and know of no problems to date.
> >
> >
> > dsmith218@ho*.co*
> > ICQ# 25409809
> >
> > Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. -
> > Polver
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: billy@v3*.co*.au* [mailto:billy@v3*.co*.au*]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:36 AM
> > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: Re: DUI CLX VS TLS
> >
> >
> > At 03:40  1/03/01 , Adam Kim wrote:
> > >There is some thing to be said about equipment
> > >maintenance!  If you clean your suit you will not have
> > >any problems.
> >
> > Bullshit. It takes a grain of sand or a piece of
> > shell debris to jam a zip. You can pick that up and
> > get a jam from it during a dive.
> >
> > IF velcro deteriorates, it doesn't happen instantly.
> > It gets slack first. And guess what, Einstein, that's
> > when you replace it.
> >
> > >I had DUI zipper pockets for many years.
> > >Had no problem.
> >
> > Are you saying that because you've had no problem
> > with your zip pocket so far, you never will and no-one
> > else will either?
> >
> > >  On the other hand I have seen people
> > >have problems with their Velcro pockets opening.
> >
> > See above.
> >
> > >  Or
> > >having trouble getting in to the pocket with dry
> > >gloves.
> >
> > You can add a grip tab to a velcro pocket to make it
> > easier to open with heavy gloves. Then you don't have to
> > run the risk of a zipper jamming.
> >
> > >I do agree with Max.
> >
> > What, about medium breasts?
> >
> > rgds billyw
> >
> >
> >
> > >Cheers
> > >Adam
> > >
> > >
> > > >Max, defending a zippered pocket by saying "I never
> > >had one jam"is mindless.
> > >
> > > >I've had all kinds of zippers jam. The fact is, zips
> > >have the potential to jam, velcro doesn't. Add silt
> > >and sand and water and the potential soars.
> > >
> > > >But hey, don't let reason influence you. Go right
> > >head and go with the zipper. Just remember, by so
> > >doing you're ignoring reality. And that is a stupid
> > >thing to do when it comes to choosing extreme diving
> > >gear.
> > >
> > > >rgds billyw
> > >
> > >At 12:00  28/02/01 , Max wrote:
> > > >A zippered pocket will never open on it own, never
> > >collect sand, the flap does not get pushed inside when
> > >routing deep, i cannot tell if the Velcro is closed
> > >with dry gloves, I have never had a zippered pocket
> > >jam. This is not an argument rather a preference. For
> > >what you do I guess you could make do with Velcro. I
> > >like big pockets, but med breasts it's just a
> > >preference. I think I will opp for the TLS rather than
> > >the CLx.
> > >
> > >
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