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From: "Walter Jaccard" <wjaccard@mi*.co*>
To: "Glenn E Goettler" <geg@li*.co*>, "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>,
     "Techdiver Mailing List"
Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:47:33 -0700
You guys seem to have forgotten that the tanks are way too expensive to be
worth buying.

Walter


----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn E Goettler <geg@li*.co*>
To: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>; Techdiver Mailing List
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's


> Cam; i have 2 sets of double 45s, and they make a very slick rec setup.
> the biggest advantages are weight (about the same as a 100cf single), use
> of your standard doubles reg setup, and mainly, significantly reduced
> profile (especially when compared to a plate, single tank adapter &
> cylinder).  plus, you can easily pump them up to 110-120cf.
>
> there are some serious disadvantages however, mainly the manifold as you
> mentioned.  at best, it's no better than an H valve (no air redundancy,
> just reg); at worst, it's an OMS manifold with all those inherent
problems.
>  you could solve those problems w/ the custom bands, and an old dive buddy
> of mine did exactly that.  but either way, the overall width of the system
> is less than that of normal 7-8" diameter doubles, so Halcyon wings become
> really large on the system.  my solution there was to use the 45# Pioneer
> wing rather than an Explorer.  the tanks restrict some of the smaller
> wing's inflation, but there's still plenty left over for lightweights like
> that.
>
> obviously, it's a recreational setup only, but the extremely low profile
> and the balance of the doubles makes it really comfortable in the water,
> and still easy to maneuver on a crowded six-pack.  the only difference
> between this and my cave rig is Explorer wings and bigger tanks (with the
> right manifold).
>
> ---
> Glenn Goettler                                           Liquid Earth
> geg@li*.co*                        http://www.liquidearth.com
>
>
>
> ----------
> > From: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>
> > To: Techdiver Mailing List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject: Dual OMS 45's
> > Date: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 7:42 AM
> >
> > I saw someone with a set of double OMS LP 45's on a diveboat last year,
> and
> > I have to admit I think this could be my ultimate setup for recreational
> > diving.  Mini-doubles, in other words, for air redundancy.  90cf if you
> > don't over pressurize the tanks at all, and light enough to take on any
> rec
> > dive or casual boat dive.
> >
> > I already dive an H-valve with two regs when I dive single-tank, but
this
> is
> > just not quite filling my paranoia needs.  Yeah, I know my buddy is my
> > redundant air supply, but sometimes you don't get the ideal buddy.
> >
> > The problems I saw with the dual 45's set up were bungie-wing (let's not
> go
> > there; I'm thinking to use a normal Halcyon wing and plate), and no
> isolator
> > on the manifold.  The reason there was no isolator was because the bands
> > held the 45's too close together to fit a standard isolator in between.
> >
> > So, what if I had a special set of bands made up to hold the tanks far
> > enough apart that I could fit a standard isolator manifold on there.  Is
> > this just lameness and I should give up the whole idea, or is there
> nothing
> > wrong with it?  Thanks.
> >
> > Cam
> >
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