My thanks to all who have shared their ideas and solutions to what I now know is a universal problem! I was starting to think it was just my Irish bladder :). I'm going to make inquiries about the dump valves and also experiment with the Depends route. BTW, the external male catheter that I tried this weekend is called a "Freedom Cath." It is self adhesive and man does it stick! (I leave that scene to your fertile imaginations.) Thanks again for all the input. Jim **************************************************************************** Jim Payne <jpayne@nm*.nm*.ed*> Office of Student Services New Mexico State University-Alamogordo P.O. Box 477, Alamogordo, NM 88311-0477 (505)439-3720 ****************************************************************************
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