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From: "Don Burke" <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
To: "Matthias Voss" <mat.voss@t-*.de*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: heated watersuit
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:19:59 -0500
I stand corrected.

From: Matthias Voss <mat.voss@t-*.de*>


> Don,
> I would like very much to agree to your currency conversion,
> unfortunetely it is the USD which is at the strong side of the equation.
> So it is more like USD 235/ 375 for the suits.
> regards
> Matthias
>
> Don Burke schrieb:
> >
> > From: Matthias Voss <mat.voss@t-*.de*>
> >
> > >  The price for one suit was 500,- DM, for the other 800,-DM , I
believe.
> >
> > That's about $1050/$1680USD.  Yikes!
> >
> > > > The pack connects to the suit, has a temperature control, and is
> > available
> > > > with several mounting options.
> > > > How it does that without punching a hole in the drysuit or making a
seal
> > > > into a leak is a mystery to me.
> > >
> > > They do not a through connection to inside the suit ?
> > > I have seen wireless transmission with charging devices, but in this
> > > application I would chose to make a neat connection to the suit.
> >
> > The company says "no modification to the drysuit."
> > They may use Voodoo and provide you with a bag of chicken bones for
field
> > use.
> > I've seen SONAR systems that worked that way.  :)
> >
> > The wireless charging I have seen is done by sending an AC magnetic
field
> > through the case.  It isn't all that efficient, but one avoided case of
> > flooding a housing can pay for quite a bit of power loss.
> >
> > I think I would go for a through-suit connection too.
> > It would be much easier to manage in an entanglement.
> >
> > > > > There was also a suit who's designer claimed a capability of
> > chemically
> > > > > storing latent enrgy and rendering heat in the very moment the
> > > > > temperature dropped below a trigger point. You may have seen this
very
> > > > > design with cars, where the cooling system serves to heat
> > > > > natriumsomething crystals, which in turn give this energy back on
> > > > > demand.
> > > >
> > > > If you could have a material with a melting point around 90 degrees
and
> > > > enough specific heat, you could wear a vest of the stuff under your
> > drysuit
> > > > and go the first part of the dive on sensible heat and the rest of
the
> > dive
> > > > on the latent heat given off as the material solidifies.  I know of
no
> > > > material with a high enough specific heat to do that.
> > >
> > > That was exactly how they said it would work. The crystals were said
to
> > > be "woven in " within the fabric.
> >
> > I would expect it to require quite a bit more mass than one could get
into a
> > fabric.
> > Since I don't have one, I'll assume it didn't work out very well. :)
> >
> > > > The thing about this rig that got my attention was that the suits
put no
> > > > heat on the head, hands, or feet.  The heating element is at the
spine.
> > >
> > > May be there is good reason for this. If you feel the cold, your body
> > > can react to it and economize.
> > > The spine is susceptible to cold, without the need to feel it there,
> > > _because_ you already feel it at your more exposed limbs.
> > > People die in the water when temperatures at  the upper spine (
> > > especially C1 to C ** drop below a certain level, which in turn
affects
> > > motion and breathing.
> > > So heating the spine may be beneficial, and economic.
> >
> > Makes sense.  My knowledge of physiology is pretty limited.
> >
> > > The company was Robin Hood Watersports ( ROHO)from UK.
> >
> > At those prices, they go to the bottom of my "to-do" list.  :)
> >
> > Don
> >
> > Shop online without a credit card
> > http://www.rocketcash.com
> > RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
>


Shop online without a credit card
http://www.rocketcash.com
RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
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