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From: "Don Burke" <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Matthias Voss" <mat.voss@t-*.de*>
Subject: Re: heated watersuit
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:21:32 -0500
From: Matthias Voss <mat.voss@t-*.de*>

>  The price for one suit was 500,- DM, for the other 800,-DM , I believe.

That's about $1050/$1680USD.  Yikes!

> > The pack connects to the suit, has a temperature control, and is
available
> > with several mounting options.
> > How it does that without punching a hole in the drysuit or making a seal
> > into a leak is a mystery to me.
>
> They do not a through connection to inside the suit ?
> I have seen wireless transmission with charging devices, but in this
> application I would chose to make a neat connection to the suit.

The company says "no modification to the drysuit."
They may use Voodoo and provide you with a bag of chicken bones for field
use.
I've seen SONAR systems that worked that way.  :)

The wireless charging I have seen is done by sending an AC magnetic field
through the case.  It isn't all that efficient, but one avoided case of
flooding a housing can pay for quite a bit of power loss.

I think I would go for a through-suit connection too.
It would be much easier to manage in an entanglement.

> > > There was also a suit who's designer claimed a capability of
chemically
> > > storing latent enrgy and rendering heat in the very moment the
> > > temperature dropped below a trigger point. You may have seen this very
> > > design with cars, where the cooling system serves to heat
> > > natriumsomething crystals, which in turn give this energy back on
> > > demand.
> >
> > If you could have a material with a melting point around 90 degrees and
> > enough specific heat, you could wear a vest of the stuff under your
drysuit
> > and go the first part of the dive on sensible heat and the rest of the
dive
> > on the latent heat given off as the material solidifies.  I know of no
> > material with a high enough specific heat to do that.
>
> That was exactly how they said it would work. The crystals were said to
> be "woven in " within the fabric.

I would expect it to require quite a bit more mass than one could get into a
fabric.
Since I don't have one, I'll assume it didn't work out very well. :)

> > The thing about this rig that got my attention was that the suits put no
> > heat on the head, hands, or feet.  The heating element is at the spine.
>
> May be there is good reason for this. If you feel the cold, your body
> can react to it and economize.
> The spine is susceptible to cold, without the need to feel it there,
> _because_ you already feel it at your more exposed limbs.
> People die in the water when temperatures at  the upper spine (
> especially C1 to C ** drop below a certain level, which in turn affects
> motion and breathing.
> So heating the spine may be beneficial, and economic.

Makes sense.  My knowledge of physiology is pretty limited.

> The company was Robin Hood Watersports ( ROHO)from UK.

At those prices, they go to the bottom of my "to-do" list.  :)

Don


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