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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:11:35 -0500
From: Wendell Grogan <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
To: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
CC: Izzy <izzy@im*.fr*.co*.uk*>, Steve <s_lindblom@co*.co*>,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Techdiver or GUE Quest? (was Lawsuit)
Wow, what a flashback!  I haven't even thought about most of those things since
the early 70's when I was doing my minor in comparative religions!  I could try
to translate, but when you get right down to it, I'm with you JT.
He is right however, and it really is applicable to the subject at hand.
Wendell Grogan

Capt JT wrote:

> Hi Izzy
> As I tried to figure out what you are trying to tell me, I got tired and
> gave up.
>
> JT
>
> At 09:13 PM 12/19/00 +0000, Izzy wrote:
> >Hi Capt,
> >
> > > I have nothing against GUE either, but I will not subscribe to it. Any
> >list
> > > that has a business as its backing will surely push people to use and
> > > benefit the business. That just isn't me.
> >
> >I thought the same way in the beginning but after a lot of direct talk with
> >the people behind it, realised that's not really the case. The problem
> >really stems from copycats and wannabees, people who don't know a difference
> >between gear etc. as they've never been exposed to alternative TMs and just
> >take everything for granted. These are people who have never tried anything
> >else and are 100% dedicated not to the diving but the gear, IMHO.
> >
> >Admittedly the groups do at times reflect growth pains similar to that of
> >early Christianity (i.e. Assyrian cultures, Cappadocian hideouts etc) and
> >the problems associated to it (such as full and unquestioning dedication at
> >times) but that does not mean it represents something that is wrong. There
> >are many accounts in history where leaders fail to control their associates,
> >and many occasions where the masses become rouge or "more a King's man than
> >the King himself." Recent postings, in my view, both here and there reflect
> >this. The good part of it is you pay for that list, so legally and morally
> >you have a say no matter what. Its a right. Period.
> >
> >Personally I resemble a lot of puritan drrrr  formations to our/my own teen
> >years where in US-backed military coup regimes living under the gun or cobra
> >helicopters, or the armoured vehicles you guys make that side of the pond,
> >or the M16s or cages, or the many bad things that were learnt and passed on,
> >we had to do our best to do it right, or suffer for it dearly :-) as a
> >family or people. Ironically, this is why I find DIR adaptable to diving in
> >every way :-) and joined GUE. I think it is a beginning and no matter our
> >differences in views, it portrays a safe(r) environment for all of us. My
> >views only. Best and regards.
> >
> >
> >
> >Izzy
>
> "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the
> water"
> Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
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