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From: "Mark Dixon" <jj@da*.co*>
To: "Bob Cooper" <bob@bo*.fs*.co*.uk*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Backplate harness
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 00:13:28 -0000
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Whatever the DIR guys say it is definitely more difficult to get a
harness/backplate off on a RIB than a transpac!!   Don't believe that just
drop your shoulder and flip it over your head bullshit

However the in water stability, safety (no quick releases to snap open) and
the ability to use the rig for all circumstances mean that for me it is a no
brainer to use the backplate / harness on all my dives.  Yes it is a bit
trickier to get off on a RIB - best to remove wrist mounted gauges / slates
first and don't have the straps too tight - then it is perfectly feasible.

Finally, getting the rig on is no problem.

Regards

Mark
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bob Cooper [mailto:bob@bo*.fs*.co*.uk*]
  Sent: 06 December 2000 12:10
  To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
  Subject: Backplate harness


  Thanks for your replies to my previous post "which backplate?".

  I have another question regarding a backplate/harness/wing arrangement:

  My current kit configuration uses a Transpac II and twin steel 10's or
12's.  Most of my diving is in a dry suit from RIB's off the UK coast.
Donning the Transpac is made relatively easy because it has adjustable
shoulder straps.  However, this is sometimes difficult in a rolling RIB in
UK waters despite the extra length of the shoulder straps. When everything
is pulled tight it is very comfortable in and out of the water.  Removing
the Transpac in the water is easy because it has quick releases on both
shoulders and on the chest.  It is a simple matter to remove my kit
alongside the RIB and have the crew haul it aboard.

  A one piece harness has no releases right? and it is not adjustable (at
least not whilst wearing it).  Therefore it must be very difficult to put on
(especially in a rolling RIB) and virtually impossible to remove in the
water (especially in a dry suit with a thick undersuit).  If the shoulder
straps are left loose, making donning and doffing easier, this would result
in a sloppy fit.  If the shoulder straps are adjusted so that the harness
fits snugly it must be virtually impossible to don and doff?

  Am I missing something here?

  Any advice would me much appreciated.

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the DIR guys say it is definitely more difficult to get a =
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on a RIB than a transpac!!   Don't believe that just drop your =

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the in water stability, safety (no quick releases to snap open) and the =
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to use the rig for all circumstances mean that for me it is a no brainer =
to use=20
the backplate / harness on all my dives.  Yes it is a bit trickier =
to get=20
off on a RIB - best to remove wrist mounted gauges / slates first and =
don't have=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN =
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getting the rig on is no problem.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D810555723-06122000>Regards</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D810555723-06122000>Mark</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Bob Cooper=20
  [mailto:bob@bo*.fs*.co*.uk*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 December 2000=20
  12:10<BR><B>To:</B>
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Backplate=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your replies to my =
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  "which backplate?".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have another question regarding a=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My current kit configuration uses a =
Transpac II=20
  and twin steel 10's or 12's.  Most of my diving is in a dry suit =
from=20
  RIB's off the UK coast.  Donning the Transpac is made relatively =
easy=20
  because it has adjustable shoulder straps.  However, this is =
sometimes=20
  difficult in a rolling RIB in UK waters despite the extra length of =
the=20
  shoulder straps. When everything is pulled tight it is very =
comfortable in and=20
  out of the water.  Removing the Transpac in the water is easy =
because it=20
  has quick releases on both shoulders and on the chest.  It is a =
simple=20
  matter to remove my kit alongside the RIB and have the crew haul it=20
  aboard.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A one piece harness has no releases =
right? and it=20
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must be=20
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thick=20
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donning and=20
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shoulder=20
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